Piotr

Do you mean that psk is not used as an ingredient for generating the shared
secret?

With regards
Kings

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Piotr Matusiak <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>
>
> PSK is not used by DH but it is required to be known after DH exchange and
> before sending MM5. This is a real disadvantage (and security risk) when
> you're using MM with PSK.
> You're right saying that PSK in EasyVPN must be known earlier as all
> information (including ID Payload) is sent using AM Msg#1. This is only
> used with EasyVPN (I mean AM is used). When using RSA-sig with EasyVPN this
> is done with MM.
>
> Using AM with RSA-sig is also possible but not recommended.
>
> Regards,
> Piotr
>
>
> 2012/3/14 Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
>
>> Oh. I think it is because the PSK is used as part of the DH key
>> exchange in MM4. If the server does not have the group ID at that
>> point (because it is not communicated to the server until MM5) it
>> would be unable to deduce what PSK to use for DH key exchange. Is that
>> right?
>>
>> Conversely with rsa-sig obviously the PSK is not used in the DH key
>> exchange so we can proceed with MM
>>
>> Sorry it seems I have been answering my own questions after pondering
>> them a bit. Also, when learning fresh things I always need lots of
>> reassurance I got it right : )
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/14/12, Joe Astorino <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Can anybody help me understand why EZVPN with PSK auth uses IKE MM but
>> > with rsa-sig uses IKE AM?
>> >
>> > I get that in aggrssive mode we pass the IKE ID in clear text and that
>> > the ID we pass identifies the group name and thus allows the server to
>> > find the PSK configured for the group.
>> >
>> > I am just fuzzy on why that can't still happen with IKE MM encrypted
>> > in MM5. Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Joe Astorino
>> > CCIE #24347
>> > http://astorinonetworks.com
>> >
>> > "He not busy being born is busy dying" - Dylan
>> >
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe Astorino
>> CCIE #24347
>> http://astorinonetworks.com
>>
>> "He not busy being born is busy dying" - Dylan
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