Can anyone give me more information on why an ASA in transparent mode uses two 
IP addresses (global and management) when a layer 2 switch gets by with only 
for its management tasks? Is the second IP address required for some additional 
functionality for the ASA? I mean an ASA in Routed mode does not need more IP 
addresses than a router for it's management so why does a transparent firewall 
need more IP addresses than a switch?

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Security] ASA Transparent FW - System vs Management IP
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:44:54 +0000







Thanks Marta,

the design just seems a bit bizarre to me. I had an understanding of what the 
System IP was for but wondering why it needed to be done like that.

I mean, the System IP address can effectively place an IP address on the same 
layer 2 broadcast domain as those networks being bridge making the ASA 
reachable via hosts either side of the transparent firewall. I don't know why 
one would need let alone want this to the case, especially considering the fact 
the ASA has another IP address for the management interface which should be on 
a seperate OOB management network.

Why wouldn't the firewall just use the management interface/IP address that can 
then be connected to a dedicated management network for use as the source for 
AAA, syslog etc. I suppose I am comparing the operating of a Layer 2 switch 
which bridges layer 2 networks but has one Layer 3 ip address for its 
management interface. There is no need for an second layer 3 address on a layer 
2 switch for management purposes, the single layer 3 address is sufficient for 
all management requires such as SSH, AAA, Syslog, SNMP etc.

When compared in this way to a layer 2 switch, I just don't see why the ASA 
needs two IP addresses for management when in transparent mode when it can all 
be done with one from what I can see.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:22:11 +0200
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] ASA Transparent FW - System vs Management IP
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]

Having System IP address is a must for transparent FW configuration on Cisco 
ASA. Additionally, you can configure Management interface as a dedicated 
management interface, but to my knowledge Cisco ASA will not use it's address 
instead of System IP address. The security appliance uses System IP address as 
the
 source address for packets that originate on the security appliance, 
such as system messages or AAA communications. Management interface will be a 
management-only interface.

Marta Sokolowska.

2012/3/26 Ben Shaw <[email protected]>






Hi All

can someone explain to me the difference between the System IP and Management 
IP address when configuring an ASA as a transparent firewall?

I can't see why the firewall would need a System IP address configured with the 
global command below


TRANFW(config)# ip address global_ip_add subnet_mask

when the firewall already has a Management IP address configured with the 
command below


TRANFW(config)# interface Management0/0
TRANFW(config-if)#  nameif MGMT
TRANFW(config-if)#  security-level 100

TRANFW(config-if)#  ip address mgmt_ip_add subnet_mask

The management IP defined on Management0/0 allows me to SSH to the device via 
the management network so why is there a need for a global ip address which 
when configured is applied to both interfaces paired for transparent 
firewalling as shown below


TRANFW(config)# sh int ip brief
Interface             IP-Address      OK? Method Status                Protocol

Ethernet0/0           global_ip_add   YES unset  up                    up
Ethernet0/1           global_ip_add   YES unset  up                    up

Ethernet0/2           unassigned      YES unset  administratively down up
Ethernet0/3           unassigned      YES unset  administratively down up

Management0/0         mgmt_ip_add     YES manual up                    up

Any information on why both these are required would be appreciated as the 
firewall will not pass traffic until it is defined with a Global IP address.


Thanks
Simon


                                                                                
  
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