Quote: "So it all depends on the rekey life time and IPSec lifetime"

Is it "AND" or "OR", Kings, in your quoted statement?

I set IPSec lifetime on KS to the minimum - 120 sec and have GM reregister 
every 120 seconds accordingly even though I'm not receiving any rekeys because 
they are sent via multicast and GM doesn't have any multicast configuration yet.
What it's not clear to me is why we four sets of IPSec SA with different 
lifetime (see highlighted below)

Output from GM:

R3#sh cry gdoi group GETVPN-GR
    Group Name               : GETVPN-GR
    Group Identity           : 1
    Rekeys received          : 0
    IPSec SA Direction       : Both
    Active Group Server      : 192.168.12.2
    Group Server list        : 192.168.12.2

    GM Reregisters in        : 46 secs
    Rekey Received           : never

    Rekeys received
         Cumulative          : 0
         After registration  : 0

 ACL Downloaded From KS 192.168.12.2:
   access-list  permit ip host 3.3.3.3 host 4.4.4.4
   access-list  permit ip host 4.4.4.4 host 3.3.3.3

KEK POLICY:
    Rekey Transport Type     : Multicast
    Lifetime (secs)          : 85797
    Encrypt Algorithm        : 3DES
    Key Size                 : 192
    Sig Hash Algorithm       : HMAC_AUTH_SHA
    Sig Key Length (bits)    : 768

TEK POLICY for the current KS-Policy ACEs Downloaded:
  FastEthernet0/0:
    IPsec SA:
        spi: 0x1E2D46BE(506283710)
        transform: esp-aes esp-sha-hmac
        sa timing:remaining key lifetime (sec): (14)
        Anti-Replay : Disabled

    IPsec SA:
        spi: 0xFBD45414(4224996372)
        transform: esp-aes esp-sha-hmac
        sa timing:remaining key lifetime (sec): (44)
        Anti-Replay : Disabled

    IPsec SA:
        spi: 0xCB9C005A(3415998554)
        transform: esp-aes esp-sha-hmac
        sa timing:remaining key lifetime (sec): (74)
        Anti-Replay : Disabled

    IPsec SA:
        spi: 0x213A686E(557475950)
        transform: esp-aes esp-sha-hmac
        sa timing:remaining key lifetime (sec): (104)
        Anti-Replay : Disabled

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kingsley Charles
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 11:01 PM
To: Jason Madsen
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] Way to Tweak GETVPN GM-KS Registration Timers

The GM members can only detect the failures of KS during registration and 
re-registrations when the KS has not sent the rekey. So it all depends on the 
rekey life time and IPSec lifetime.

With regards
Kings
CCNA,CCSP,CCNP,CCIP,CCIE 35914 (Security)
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Jason Madsen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi group,

Is there a way to tweak some sort of timers so that Group Members can detect 
that the primary KS failed and update the Server Active list with COOP KS 
without setting the Rekey value to something really frequent?   Not sure that 
it really matters, but I've found that when I fail the Primary KS, the GMs 
don't update their Group Server List and Active Server address for a long time 
unless I manually clear GDOI.   However, after a little while I do see that the 
GMs build ISAKMP SAs wtih the secondary KS instead of the Primary, but the 
Server Active and Server List still won't update (see this info via "show 
crypto gdoi" on GMs).

Key Servers:

1.1.1.1 (primary)
5.5.5.5 (secondary)

After failing 1.1.1.1, I continue to see it listed as the Active Server on all 
Group Members in "show crypto gdoi" output unless I clear GDOI, then 5.5.5.5 
finally becomes Active in the list.

I'm guessing that without clearing GDOI, the Active address info won't update 
until the next Rekey period?   If so, is there a way to make the Active address 
update faster?

Thanks,
Jason

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