I don't think so.  It connects via a dial peer.

You can define the dscp values for both media and signalling within the dial 
peer.  So it isn't needed.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tech Guy" <[email protected]>
To: "Mark Snow" <[email protected]>; "Chris Parker" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QoS - H323 RAS signal marking


Since the SIP traffic from the CUE is also 0 by default; I think it is also
proper to apply the service-policy inbound on the Service-Engine module;
alternatively one can skip this and the traffic will be marked if it exists
any of the interfaces outbound; but it will not hurt to mark it at the
Service-Engine interface.

In summary, it appears that the concensore is that:

1. Use policy-map/service policy outbound for all remotely generated
traffic.
2. Use ip local policy route-map for all locally generated traffic.

Is that about right?


Tech Guy


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QoS - H323 RAS signal marking


You guys have it - a local policy route to match traffic generated BY
the router (not a policy route on an egress interface since as someone
pointed out that just like and egress ACL, egress policy routes only
deals with traffic sent Through the router).
Just make the ACL to identify interesting traffic is granular enough
to not specify media traffic (although that would only be an issue if
there were a CUBE doing media flow-through on the same box).

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On Apr 14, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Chris Parker wrote:

> Here's the cap with the traffic from the GK to UCM. It does appear  to be
> tagged as CS3.
>
> Cliff McGlamry wrote:
>> That won't work
>>
>> 1.  any voice media streams that are terminated on the Gatekeeper  would
>> end up being set to IP Precedence 3 instead of to EF
>>
>> 2.  the requirement is to set the signaling to CS3
>>
>> I actually thought about this and came up with an out of the box
>> solution. Instead of picking up the traffic and marking it on the
>> inbound interface IAW best practice, simply classify and mark on  the
>> interfaces outbound from the router.
>>
>> Still want to hear Vik and Mark's thoughts though.....   They are  very
>> quiet lately....
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Parker"  <[email protected]>
>> To: "Ameha Negash Haile" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QoS - H323 RAS signal marking
>>
>>
>> I found one interesting solution to this:
>>
>> access-list 101 permit ip host <GK IP> host <CME IP>
>> access-list 101 permit ip host <GK IP> host <CCM PUB IP>
>> access-list 101 permit ip host <GK IP> host <CCM SUB IP>
>> !
>> route-map ras permit 10
>> match ip address 101
>> set ip precedence 3
>> set ip tos 0
>> !
>> ip local policy route-map ras
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Ameha Negash Haile wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> First of all, thanks for the lots of great stuff on this list. I  have
>>> been reading the various postings for very long. Now I have got some
>>> thought and I like to get your opinions on it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The question reads as “Mark SCCP, MGCP, H323 and SIP signaling  traffic
>>> to CS3. Configure only on routers and CallManager.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The configuration on CallManager is straight forward. Regarding the
>>> configuration on routers, the solutions I have seen use access lists
>>> to capture interesting traffic (including h323 ras traffic at UDP  port
>>> 1719), create policy-map to mark the traffic to CS3, and apply  service
>>> policy in the inbound direction of voice VLAN interfaces on the
>>> various routers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As the above doesn't take into account traffic generated from the
>>> routers themselves, commands like 'ip qos dscp cs3 signaling' under
>>> VoIP dial-peers and 'mgcp ip qos dscp cs3 signaling' on MGCP  gateways
>>> are also used. I haven't seen any similar command for H323 RAS  traffic
>>> generated from BR2 router and destined to the Gatekeeper on the HQ
>>> router as well as H323 RAS traffic generated from the gatekeeper
>>> (destined to the BR2 router or the CallManager gatekeeper controlled
>>> intercluster trunk).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To provide a comprehensive solution that includes H323 RAS signaling
>>> traffic, what I think needs to be done is, combine the marking and
>>> queuing in the policy-map that is applied on the serial WAN  interface
>>> in the outbound direction. While this takes care of the H323 RAS
>>> traffic between BR2 router (H323 gateway) and HQ router (H323
>>> gatekeeper), to take care of the H323 RAS traffic from the  gatekeeper
>>> to CallManager, we need to create a policy-map for marking and apply
>>> it on the server vlan interface in the outbound direction.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A sample configuration for the portion from HQ to BR2 will be like:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> !
>>>
>>> Class-map match-any Voice
>>>
>>> match ip dscp ef
>>>
>>> class-map match-any Signal
>>>
>>> match protocol h323
>>>
>>> match protocol skinny
>>>
>>> match protocol mgcp
>>>
>>> match protocol sip
>>>
>>> !
>>>
>>> ! Here we have accounted for all signaling traffic specified
>>>
>>> ! in the question. If we want, we may add 'match ip dscp
>>>
>>> ! cs3' and 'match ip dscp af31' before the ‘match protocol’  commands.
>>>
>>> ! The 'match protocol' commands will be used to capture leftovers.
>>>
>>> !
>>>
>>> policy-map LLQ-Mark-HQ-BR2
>>>
>>> class Voice
>>>  priority 96
>>>   compress header ip rtp
>>> class Signal
>>>  bandwidth 40
>>>
>>>  set ip dscp cs3                  ! We do the marking here.
>>> class class-default
>>>  fair-queue
>>>
>>> !
>>>
>>> policy-map MQC-768
>>>
>>> class class-default
>>>
>>>  shape average 729600 7296 0
>>>
>>>  service-policy LLQ-Mark-HQ-BR2
>>>
>>> !
>>>
>>> map-class frame-relay FRTS-768
>>>
>>> service-policy output MQC-768
>>>
>>> frame-relay fragment 960
>>>
>>> !
>>>
>>> interface Serial0/1.10 point-to-point
>>>
>>> bandwidth 768
>>>
>>> ip address 10.10.10.3 255.255.255.0
>>>
>>> frame-relay interface-dlci 310
>>>
>>>  class FRTS-768
>>>
>>> !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> By doing this, I believe we make sure all signaling traffic from  HQ to
>>> BR2 will be marked to CS3 before leaving the HQ router. We do the  same
>>> on the BR2 router also for traffic going to HQ.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my opinion, if we don't do the above, in addition to
>>> not properly marking H323 RAS traffic to CS3, we also miss H323 RAS
>>> traffic from the class-map Signal and the LLQ bandwidth guarantee
>>> won’t apply to it. I say this because what I have seen was that H323
>>> RAS traffic is by default marked as 'DSCP 0', not even AF31. If this
>>> is the case, during congestion, RAS packets can be dropped big  time!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will appreciate your ideas on this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ameha Haile
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> P.S. By the way, I find using 'match protocol' commands in class-map
>>> easier than using access groups and access lists. I don't have to
>>> worry about source ports and destination ports although knowing them
>>> is good. Could there be any other reasons, which I might be missing,
>>> to use one method over another for matching traffic?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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