No matter what, there will ALWAYS been a need for large scale Enterprise voice
systems. I am one of those people, and I am sure I am not alone, I will always
want a physical phone. I am also one of these engineers who will always
recommned a system that is directly under your own site's controll. Clouds are
great, but they have their place. I don't think telecom will ever be a total
cloud based solution.
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From: Bill Lake <whl...@gmail.com>
To: Drake J <jdrake...@gmail.com>
Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Is the CCIE voice worth anymore?
As a former big Telco employee, they want three things:
Stability
Scalability
Profitability
At this time these applications are not there.
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Bill Lake <whl...@gmail.com> wrote:
As a former big Telco employee, they want three things:
> Stability
> Scalability
>
>
>
>On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Drake J <jdrake...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>hi Laksh,
>>
>>Thanks for your inputs here. This was a good discussion. It is always
>>good for us to all know about things that happen outside . Talking about
>>Telco OTTs we can already see few of the Telcos have come out with Webrtc
>>solutions for enterprise and service providers . Check this video out too
>>depicting their solution...
>>
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz-BQZMp3sk
>>
>>
>>Most of these applications written on software are supposed to open source
>>and left for the users to customize . No real networking staff expertise
>>required just download the SDK/API and customize and no more complex
>>network topologies in future. Also no licensing fee too . Hence a real
>>killer of techology in the future most likely we will see a wide spread
>>of this starting 2014 if all predictions are to be believed.
>>
>>
>>Hope someone from any of the TELCOs on this alias can add a few comments as
>>well.
>>
>>
>>Thanks once again for your inputs everyone.
>>
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>>On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Lakshmish NS <lakshmish...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Drake,
>>>
>>>
>>>I totally understand your concern, I'd be worried too. Having said that, we
>>>should always update ourselves with the latest technology. However, in
>>>future I believe Asterisk might be able to give tough run to Cisco UC. Not
>>>sure though, I hear stories that it is unstable and featureless compared to
>>>CUCM. I hope if someone aware of Asterisk would help us out here.
>>>
>>>
>>>Regard,
>>>
>>>
>>>Laksh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Drake J <jdrake...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your responses I see u guys have empathized on call routing and
>>>>and UC hardware for backend deployments. However Telco OTTs are coming up
>>>>with directly provide these services over the cloud . Here is a disruptive
>>>>analysis :
>>>>
>>>>http://www.slideshare.net/deanb/disruptive-analysis-web-rtc-overview-april-2013
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Anyways, this might be not be so serious afterall . Just thought of
>>>>brainstorming .
>>>>
>>>>Thanks guys for your responses again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Lakshmish NS <lakshmish...@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Didn't have time to go through the video, I believe WebRTC is nothing but a
>>>>Protocol, similar to SIP, H.323. Moreover, this protocol would only appeal
>>>>to the Web audience, just like Skype, or Google talk. You still need to use
>>>>UC hardware and their design for enterprise deployments. I mean we don't
>>>>use Google talk and Skype in companies right? SIP is open source, but still
>>>>Cisco uses it. As FAQ's suggest "WebRTC is an open framework for the web
>>>>that enables Real Time Communications in the browser". If only UC was that
>>>>easy that could be implemented through browser, we didn't have to work this
>>>>hard for CCIE numbers. You might want to go through this...
>>>>http://www.webrtc.org/faq
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You've clearly misinterpreted WebRTC here..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Drake J <jdrake...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Had a troubling question hence thought of putting it out .Looking at the
>>>>>>UC and networking trends worldwide it appears that
>>>>>>the future of UC and collaboration is web based. Webrtc is
>>>>>>the protocol that the world will use and individuals and organizations
>>>>>>just need to code their requirement based on the WEBRTC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here is the presentation that Google recently made
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8C8ouiXHHk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Clearly many of the UC vendors are already losing out and will be
>>>>>>losing out in year 2014.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Most of the customers are already looking at reducing the cost involved
>>>>>>in maintaining costly UC vendor networks and their networking staff .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Therefore that brings me to my question is the CCIE voice worth anymore?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Drake
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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>
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