Thanks Jason,

I knew beforehand that my answer was not completely right.
My point was to make a discussion that would be remembered :D
I have learned also to configure those things you read about and
see them fail/work is very valuable, cause the logs sometimes gives
you a usable feedback.  I am not confused. But the documentation
can be confusing, especially some of them are from 2004 like the latter
one you posted below.

A good exract from your earlier post Jason:

802.1x Authentication Configuration Requirement for Autonomous Access Points
If you use an autonomous access point (AP), you must configure the SSID for 
open + eap and network-eap authentication if using LEAP, EAP-FAST, PEAP, or 
EAP-TLS.
*Firmware 1.3(1) or earlier, network-eap is required (for Cisco Unified 
Wireless IP Phone 7925G and 7921G)
*Firmware 1.3(2) or later, open eap is required (for Cisco Unified Wireless IP 
Phone 7925G and 7921G)

So accordign to this for 7921. The need for open eap and/or network-eap depends 
on your phone firmware.

Regards. Kristjan

p.s

While exploring this I also remembered one more thing. The CCKM + WPA2 support 
for the 7921.
It may work on a single AP but roaming fails. This is a known issue with 
firmware prior 1.3(4) . So you have to be WPA TKIP if you want roam to
work. If you have firmware 1.3(4) on your 7921 you can configure WPA2 and 
roaming shold work. This is also just a phone firmware issue it seems.
So if somebody asks me to configure the most secure option for 7921. I would 
check the firmware.

This document shows and reccomends to use TKIP and say that WPA2 is not 
supported by the 7921:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Mobility/vowlan/41dg/vowlan_ch10.html#wp1045851
its the 4.1 voice over wlan design guide.

But this is a more recent firmware release notes:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/7925g/firmware/1_3_4/english/release/notes/792x_134.html#wp200672

Full CCKM Support

Cisco Centralized Key Management (CCKM) reduces the amount of delay time by 
centralizing the key management, which reduces the number of key exchanges. To 
optimize secure roaming, CCKM can be enabled while in WPA or WPA2 mode.

Prior to this firmware release, CCKM was not supported when WPA2/AES was 
selected; this required a full re-authentication when roaming between access 
points, and could result in loss of audio during the roam. Now that CCKM is 
supported when WPA2/AES is selected, the full re-authentication is no longer 
required and roaming to a new access point should not result in any perceptible 
loss of audio.

Firmware 1.3(4) provides full CCKM support of all WPA versions.


regards. Kristjan

From: Jason Boyers [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 18. febrúar 2011 02:26
To: Kristján Ólafur Eðvarðsson
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CCIE Wireless] 3. Re: Autonomous AP Eap-fast with 7921 phone 
(Brendon Hwang)

Kristjan

Don't confuse the EAP authentication method (LEAP, EAP-FAST) with the 802.11 
authentication algorithm required prior to EAP taking place.  Look at 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps4570/products_configuration_example09186a00801bd035.shtml#NetEAP.

There is also a bit more information at 
http://pluscom.ru/cisco_product/cc/td/doc/product/wireless/airo1200/accsspts/techref/eapfast/eapfast.htm
 (search for 802.11 authentication algorithm).  Here it adds the use of 
EAP-FAST with Network-EAP.

While LEAP will tend to require the use of network-EAP, it will depend on the 
client connecting.  Also, note that the WLC solution (which supports LEAP) does 
not, to my knowledge, have a place to set the 802.11 authentication algorithm 
to Network-EAP.  Hope this didn't make things more confusing.

Also, that is a true statement about using EAP-FAST with local RADIUS for Cisco 
clients (APs and bridges.)  LEAP must be allowed so that it can be offered.  If 
not, the AP won't offer EAP-FAST as an EAP authentication algorithm.

Jason Boyers - CCIE #26024 (Wireless)
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
Mailto: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

2011/2/17 Kristján Ólafur Eðvarðsson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

  3. Re: Autonomous AP Eap-fast with 7921 phone (Brendon Hwang)


Kara and Brendon, I don´t agree. EAP-FAST requires only open eap
network-eap is only left on for legacy LEAP.
This is for the phone and clients using EAP-FAST, it is open standard.
Test it ! and then beleive ! :)

unless for Root to WGB schenario. The leap needs to be open
for net negotiation to work. The negotiation goes something like Root: "do you 
support LEAP ?"
Bridge: "Yes I do, but can we speak EAP-FAST?" Root: "sure we can..."


regards. Kristjan


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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:06:15 +1100
From: Brendon Hwang <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "Kara Muessig (kmuessig)" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
       
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [CCIE Wireless] Autonomous AP Eap-fast with 7921 phone
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Hi Kara,

That is correct.
Use both open eap and network-eap.  I remember if you configure network-eap
only then you get an warning msg that said you should enable open eap as
well for eap-fast.

Cheers,
Brendon


From:  "Kara Muessig (kmuessig)" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date:  Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:33:39 -0800
To:  
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject:  [CCIE Wireless] Autonomous AP Eap-fast with 7921 phone

Hi all,

I just wanted to verify that when configuring a 7921 to connect to an
autonomous AP with EAP-FAST that you had to use Network EAP along with Open
EAP.  I guess the phone is similar to a Cisco WGB where you have to use both
open and network eap to use eap-fast??

Thoughts?

Thanks,



 Kara Muessig
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