Hey Alvin, Let me try to answer some of this. You can
also see this discussion in older posts on this list.
But it is a good practice to refresh of course so I don´t mind :D

I understand that things can be confusing. Older Cisco documentation
say that for Cisco wireless cards. Network-eap must be set. 
This is LEAP and EAP-FAST. Nowadays everybody supports LEAP and EAP-FAST
and EAP-FAST is an open standard. So open auth with eap is used (open eap)

In my mind, speaking of the LAB cause it has some old software versions e.t.c
according to the blueprint.

For clients everything exept LEAP should work on open EAP. And you see
when you configure only network-eap the ios gives you a warning if you
want to use EAP-FAST you should use open eap.

For the phones there is a firmware question. Probably in the LAB there
is an older version of the firmware. At some stage the phone worked with
network-eap and in some versions probably more recent they require open eap.
I can look that up for you if you like.

For the bridges. you are right. I know that the "caveat" is for EAP-FAST to work
the root and bridge need to enable both network-eap and open-eap. Why ?
Cause there is some conversation and it starts with "do you support leap?"
and it has to be supported before the negotiate EAP-FAST. So look for
if the bridge or client should only support LEAP, I would only enable
network-eap for the autonomous. Also I would secure the Bridge with 
dot1x profile where only EAP-FAST is available. (Checking the log
on the Bridge tells you what method was used when successfully authenticating
is very important cause it does not show it on the Root AP!)

CCKM or WPA. Is a question if you are asked to support fast-secure-roaming.
Phones need that of course. And then there has to be WDS running to make it 
work.

I would take care on using the software versions that they mention in the 
blueprint.
Cause they mention 12.3.x and 12.4 for example has many more options. My 
strategy
is when they ask for WPA2 or WPA you should always have the key-management as 
WPA
(unless fast-secure-roaming is required you need CCKM) But under dotradio
encryption you use TKIP for WPA and aes-ccm for WPA2. WPA always means TKIP
and WPA2 always means AES in my mind. In 12.4 you can specify if you want
wpa2 only so using this software could be confusing, cause those options
are not available in 12.3.x code.

older phone software. (And I would´t be surpised if it was older in the lab)
Fast-secure-roaming only works with TKIP. It might work to associate to a single
AP and make a call with WPA2/AES but roaming will fail. I can look up the excact
versions of 7921 firmware where this changes. So still key-managment CCKM for
phones and the TKIP for encryption under the dotradio interface for the phone 
SSID/VLAN.

In WLC it is more simple exept for the fact that you can mix WPA and TKIP 
various ways.
For example use WPA with AES and WPA2 with TKIP. I would follow the same rule 
there
when asked for WPA use TKIP always and WPA2 use AES always unless specficly 
told otherwise.

Hope this answers something. Ping if you need me to dig up the software versions
mentioned in older posts.

regards. Kristjan











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   1.  LAB: Network, Open EAP, WPA CCKM ([email protected])


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Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:46:34 +0800
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Subject: [CCIE Wireless]  LAB: Network, Open EAP, WPA CCKM
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Hi All,

I understand from readings that there are conditions when both network  
and open eap are to be offered. When there are legacy cisco client and  
3rd party clients, usually both eaps need to be enabled to support  
various eap authentication methods. Also when a wireless link needs to  
be established with a secure setup between 2 autonomous AP, you need  
to enable network and open to allow the APs to be offered LEAP before  
they choose the more secure configured option (eg EAP-FAST). However,  
since having both eap works for every scenario, will I be penalised in  
the lab if i enable both? Or is there eap mehtods that can only work  
with open eap only? This is sparked from question 3.2 for ssid Test6  
which from the DSG, i noticed both EAP are offered for EAP-FAST while  
the others only offer open EAP for PEAP. I do notice the CCKm  
requirement which may infer that cisco phones/devices are used by the  
SSID, hence the need for network leap?

Another question regarding the same lab, when aes is offered, a key  
management must be configured. This can be wpa or cckm. what does the  
WPA mean? Does it mean mixed wpav1 and v2 or only v1. IN the new IOS  
for 1252, there is the choice for wpa, wpav1 and wpav2. For the 7921  
(1.3.3 for mine), if aes is configured only wpa2 will be used  
regardless of whether wpa is set as the key management or not. With  
only CCKM (with or without wpa again), it still uses WPA2 AES without  
cckm (since my phone with 1.3.3 doesn't support wpa2 aes + cckm).  
However, if tkip is set, with only cckm setup (with or without wpa  
actually), the 7921 will work in wpa tkip + cckm. This is confusing to  
me as to whether wpa should be set with cckm into the key management  
when aes is required in the question.

Alvin B




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