This depends on the requirements of your task (sorry to steal your sentence Jason ;D)
But for a classic trust the phone's voice vlan tagging. At Jasons Bootcamp we came to a conclusion to have a wired phone port on a 65k switch like this: ! Int f0/20 Descr wired ip phone cat65k switchport trust the phone marking. Switchport mode access Switchport voice vlan x Switchport access vlan x Mls qos trust cos Spanning-tree porfast Priority-queue output limit 100 ! The last line is something new that Jason wanted to put in. We noticed when configuring the port that the default setting was that the pc VLAN behind the phone was not trusted and therefore everything marked as best effort or similar. I don´t remember what command that was perhaps Jason can shed som light on this area. Notice that this above is just a classic configuration where you are trusting the markings from the phone. If you wanted to do something else it would depend on the requirements. For example if the requirement is to change the default queue behavior. We have SRR queue commands on teh 3560s and WRR on the 6500s. And It seems to be a different ball game there to. I only have this glossary how things work on a 3560 switchport connected to a phone: Manual QOS best practices: ! interface GigabitEthernet0/24 description wired phone qos "best practices" 3560 config srr-queue bandwidth share 10 10 60 20 srr-queue bandwidth shape 10 0 0 0 mls qos trust device cisco-phone mls qos trust cos ! some explanation here: https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/630774 In short. Shape command. Takes 10% of of queue 1 And reserves bandwith at all times. But why is qeueue 3 With 60% shared bandwitdh and queue 1 with 10% "not to share" Queue 3 is data default queue. Queue 1 is the priority queue It would be interesting if someone knows how the cat65k output would look like. With same results. regards. Kristjan From: Stalder Dominic [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 2. júlí 2011 16:04 To: [email protected]; Kristján Ólafur Eðvarðsson Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE_Wireless Digest, Vol 27, Issue 43 Hi Kristjan Do you know the full and correct way to configure a wired ip phone port (specially QoS) on a Cat 6500, because I ran into exactly this problem? ;) Thanks and regards Dominic Sent from my HTC. -----Original Message----- From: Kristján Ólafur Eðvarðsson [[email protected]] Received: Samstag, 02 Jul. 2011, 7:22 To: [email protected] [[email protected]] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] CCIE_Wireless Digest, Vol 27, Issue 43 Don´t forget that the 6500 has different QOS configuration than the 3560. for example wrr queues instead of srr. So relying enterly on 3560 for practice can give you a shock when you are trying to do similar stuff in 6500 :D For example the phone port QOS settings on 6500 is different than you can do in 3560. For example the mls qos trust device cicso-phone is not available in the code they give in the blueprint for 6500. I think the training companies are underestimating this stuff a littlebit. I was lucky enough to get a hold of one spare 6500. So I connect 6500 to 3560 as the core and have another 3560 as a remote brach switch aswell. I managmed to get a good deal from Cicso with 3x 2106 WLC´s. It was a bundle with 3x 1040 aps. Unfortunatelly they don´t work with code 4.2 but they can come in handy anywhere or later of course. regards. Kristjan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 29. júní 2011 08:37 To: [email protected] Subject: CCIE_Wireless Digest, Vol 27, Issue 43 Send CCIE_Wireless mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://onlinestudylist.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ccie_wireless or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CCIE_Wireless digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: is there anyone here (Jason Boyers) 2. Re: is there anyone here (Wire Less) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:04:04 -0400 From: Jason Boyers <[email protected]> To: Chad Teal <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] is there anyone here Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" If you have some 3560s to use for studying, you will be able to do a lot of the studying required. There are of course some key differences, like Chad mentioned. In addition to the ones he listed, there are ones like SVIs being shutdown by default and switchports being L3 instead of L2 by default. And, there are more, of course, but those are some key ones. In regards to the WLCs used for studying. If you are studying for v1, do not use the 5500s. As they cannot support firmware 4.2, which is on the lab, the layout is different enough that you will lose time looking for things or forgetting about features supported in v4.2 but not 6.0 and higher. If your lab is after Nov 17, then feel free to use them. If you are building your own lab, I would try to get at least one 2106. Most of the configurations can be done on it, and it supports v4.2, as well as 7.0 if you'll need that later. The other issue with the lab is the number of WLCs and switches that you need to be able to configure. Most people are fine with a single WLC. The problem is keeping track of multiple WLCs, their Mobility Domains/Groups, which SSIDs go on which WLCs, and which LWAPs need which SSIDs and need to join which WLCs. It is that confusion that causes a lot of people to lose time and points in the lab. Of course, if you are able to build a lab that has a number of switches, WLCs, and APs, that's awesome. If not, Proctor Labs has racks for rental for studying those things that require multiple WLCs (like Mobility Domains/Groups and Anchor/Foreign controllers) and for getting used to working with many devices at once. Jason Boyers - CCIE #26024 (Wireless) Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Mailto: *[email protected] * On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Chad Teal <[email protected]> wrote: > Which version of the lab are you studying for? On version 1 your main > concern in regards to the 6500 will be your initial WiSM configuration which > is the doc Victor linked to. You may also need to know a little about QoS > on the 6500 as it is a little different than the 3560s. At least be aware > of the differences between the two. > > > If you will be attempting the lab after early Nov you will not have to > worry about the WiSM configuration but they have added VSS as a requirement > so that version of the lab is completely different in regards to the 6500 > requirements. > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Wire Less <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi Victor, >> >> Thankyou for your response, but my main concern whether i can another >> switches and see the scenerio, for sure at my last touch i can put my hands >> on online racks and see the stuffs >> >> but before that i want to simulate everything at my home, for which >> purchasing 6500 is not possible.. >> >> so was just checking how much configuration is required .. in this.. case >> on 6500. >> >> Response is appreciated. >> >> Regards >> >> *From:* Victor Platov (viplatov) <[email protected]> >> >> *To:* Wire Less <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:56 PM >> *Subject:* RE: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] is there anyone here >> >> Hi, >> >> You simply have to learn the following doc: >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/modules/ps2706/products_tech_note09186a00808330a9.shtmlfor >> both Auto-LAG and manual LAG scenarios. >> Besides that stuff WiSM looks like ordinary WLC-4400 controller (one blade >> has two of them). So you can use 3560/3750 switches instead of 6504 and >> wlc-4402 instead of WiSM. Actually, you can use other WLC models like 2106 >> or 5508 with following drawbacks keeping in mind: >> 1. 2106 does not support guest tunneling, so you could not practice >> on it; >> 2. 5508 doesn?t have AP-manager interface while WiSM does. >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Wire Less >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:32 AM >> *To:* Jason Boyers >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] is there anyone here >> >> Hi Great, >> >> So let me add my more friends who is interested in the same. >> >> Ok, first thing, i want to ask and your response will be appreciated. >> >> How we can achieve wireless full rack without 6500 >> >> what is the use of 6500 in wireless 6500 how much configuration it has >> it.. >> >> bec i am planning to purchase the wireless equipments and i am feeling >> this trouble, will i can complete testing all the stuff with some another >> switch. >> >> Thanks >> >> *From:* Jason Boyers <[email protected]> >> *To:* Wire Less <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* "[email protected]" < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] is there anyone here >> >> >> We are certainly here. Generally, there's a flurry of emails one day, >> then nothing for a few days, then a few, etc. >> Jason Boyers - CCIE #26024 (Wireless) >> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. >> Mailto: *[email protected] >> * >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Wire Less <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> i am nt getting any message is the group active >> >> thanks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com<http://www.PlatinumPlacement.com> >> <http://www.platinumplacement.com/> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com<http://www.PlatinumPlacement.com> >> >> > > > -- > CT > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com<http://www.PlatinumPlacement.com> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </archives/ccie_wireless/attachments/20110628/0a6e42f7/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:37:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Wire Less <[email protected]> To: Jason Boyers <[email protected]>, Chad Teal <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] is there anyone here Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Jason, ? I really appreciated your response i will order the material now, My major problem was 6500 which i cannot order it... ? I am already a CCIE V, and i am really very very very very interested in wireless, problem is to learn the technology i cannot take 100 vouchers :) ? so the best i want to do it from my home and for last touch i will go with some renting but my problem is.. whatever equipments i want to order i shld able to use those when i will make it my final touch, bec i was the exact equipments! 6500 is giving pain to me... ? That is why there is no institutes in other countries to teach CCIE W ? Thanks From: Jason Boyers <[email protected]> To: Chad Teal <[email protected]> Cc: Wire Less <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] is there anyone here If you have some 3560s to use for studying, you will be able to do a lot of the studying required.? There are of course some key differences, like Chad mentioned.? In addition to the ones he listed, there are ones like SVIs being shutdown by default and?switchports being L3 instead of L2 by default.? And, there are more, of course, but those are some key ones. In regards to the WLCs used for studying.? If you are studying for v1, do not use the 5500s.? As they cannot support firmware 4.2, which is on the lab, the layout is different enough that you will lose time looking for things or forgetting about features supported in v4.2 but not 6.0 and higher.? If your lab is after Nov 17, then feel free to use them.? If you are building your own lab, I would try to get at least one?2106.? Most of the configurations can be done on it, and it supports v4.2, as well as 7.0 if you'll need that later. The other issue with the lab is the number of WLCs and switches that you need to be able to configure.? Most people are fine with a single WLC.? The problem is keeping track of multiple WLCs, their Mobility Domains/Groups, which SSIDs go on which WLCs, and which LWAPs need which SSIDs and need to join which WLCs.? It is that confusion that causes a lot of people to lose time and points in the lab.? Of course, if you are able to build a lab that has a number of switches, WLCs, and APs, that's awesome.? If not, Proctor Labs has racks for rental for studying those things that require multiple WLCs (like Mobility Domains/Groups and Anchor/Foreign controllers) and for getting used to working with many devices at once. ? Jason Boyers - CCIE #26024 (Wireless) Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Mailto:[email protected] On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Chad Teal <[email protected]> wrote: Which version of the lab are you studying for?? On version 1 your main concern in regards to the 6500 will be your initial WiSM configuration which is the doc Victor linked to.? You may also need to?know a little?about QoS on the 6500 as it is a little different than the 3560s.? At least be aware of the differences? between the two.? > > >If you will be attempting the lab after early Nov you will not have to worry >about the WiSM configuration but they have added VSS as a requirement so that >version of the lab is completely different in regards to the 6500 >requirements.? > > >On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Wire Less <[email protected]> wrote: > >Hi Victor, >>? >>Thankyou for your response, but my main concern whether i can another >>switches and see the scenerio, for sure at my last touch i can put my hands >>on online racks and see the stuffs >>? >>but before that i want to simulate everything at my home, for which >>purchasing 6500 is not possible.. >>? >>so was just checking how much configuration is required .. in this.. case on >>6500. >>? >>Response is appreciated. >>? >>Regards >> >> >>From: Victor Platov (viplatov) <[email protected]> >> >>To: Wire Less <[email protected]> >>Cc: [email protected] >>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:56 PM >>Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] is there anyone here >> >> >> >>Hi, >>? >>You simply have to learn the following doc: >>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/modules/ps2706/products_tech_note09186a00808330a9.shtml >> for both Auto-LAG and manual LAG scenarios. >>Besides that stuff WiSM looks like ordinary WLC-4400 controller (one blade >>has two of them). So you can use 3560/3750 switches instead of 6504 and >>wlc-4402 instead of WiSM. Actually, you can use other WLC models like 2106 or >>5508 with following drawbacks keeping in mind: >>1.?????? 2106 does not support guest tunneling, so you could not practice on >>it; >>2.?????? 5508 doesn?t have AP-manager interface while WiSM does. ? >>? >>? >>From:[email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wire Less >>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:32 AM >>To: Jason Boyers >>Cc: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] is there anyone here >> >>Hi Great, >>? >>So let me add my more friends who is interested in the same. >>? >>Ok, first thing, i want to ask and your response will be appreciated. >>? >>How we can achieve wireless full rack without 6500 >>? >>what is the use of 6500 in wireless 6500 how much configuration it has it.. >>? >>bec i am planning to purchase the wireless equipments and i am feeling this >>trouble, will i can complete testing all the stuff with some another switch. >>? >>Thanks >>? >>From:Jason Boyers <[email protected]> >>To: Wire Less <[email protected]> >>Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 AM >>Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] is there anyone here >> >> >> >>We are certainly here.? Generally, there's a flurry of emails one day, then >>nothing for a few days, then a few, etc. >> >>Jason Boyers - CCIE #26024 (Wireless) >>Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. >>Mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> >>On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Wire Less <[email protected]> wrote: >>Hi, >>? >>i am nt getting any message is the group active >>? >>thanks >> >>_______________________________________________ >>For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >>visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> >> >>Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >>www.PlatinumPlacement.com<http://www.PlatinumPlacement.com> >>? >>? >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >>visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> >> >>Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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