I have recently taken the exam and have the following thoughts, keep in mind I 
haven't passed yet but the comments should be helpful:

 1. WCS and using templates is good but some requirements in the exam may not 
allow you this option in all cases. Good to know this but have an alternate 
plan if a particular question is worded in a way that a template could not be 
used.

2. I agree with Jason's comments: "Configure the switched network/routing/wired 
QoS/multicast section,
since everything is dependent on that working properly on the infrastructure " 
If this isn't working then you can't do other parts of the exam.

3. Use cli for as much as you can via cut and paste from notepad.

4. Read the entire exam and understand the WCS to WLC requirements before and 
how you decide on adding the WLC's to WCS if you choose this method.

5. Work on your ACS configuration skills and the ability to write rules to 
match the lab requirements. You will need this for several sections. Also 
beware there are some bugs in ACS Level 5.2 that you could encounter. The bugs 
aren't part of the exam but since the blueprint states ACS 5.2 then this is the 
level being used in the test and there are one or two issues that could hamper 
your work. 

6. I did skip around in the lab some to combine task that were requirements 
later in the exam. Again a quick read over of all sections can help on this and 
hopefully keep you from wasting time on re-configuring a task again. 

Tracy

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:29:17 -0500
From: Jeff Rensink <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Lab strategy thoughts?
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I'm starting to think about lab strategy to help guide my hands-on
practice.  I have a few thoughts as to order of operations and config
methods. But I wanted to see what the group thought and what has worked
well for them.

In terms of an order of operations, what have you found to be useful?

Obviously, to start things off you will want to read through the lab, write
out your own diagrams and any other initial notes to help organize the
information in a meaningful way.  I'm more looking to see which
sections/technologies should be done first and which can wait until later.

When it comes to picking your sections/tasks to work on, what has been your
order of operations?


Another area that I wonder about is what is the most efficient way to make
your configurations.  On the WCS and autonomous APs, we have both CLI and
GUIs.  We also have the WCS that can be used to configure WLCs and their
associated APs.  What have you found to be the most efficient method to
make your configurations?


Jeff
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:07:38 -0500
From: Blake Krone <[email protected]>
To: Jeff Rensink <[email protected]>
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Jeff when I went through the lab I started off like you suggested reading
the entire workbook and paraphrasing in my own way. I also circled things
that required radios to be done or should be done together.

WCS can be used to do similar tasks on the WLCs and I would suggest using
that if you are comfortable with it. I also used the CLI heavily, most of
my tasks were done in notepad and then copy/pasted over. Learn autonomous
CLI inside and out, seen as the GUI is so slow you'll be wasting time for
page loads.

Without breaking NDA can't really offer much as to which sections/tasks to
do first, but there will be a very obvious order that you should complete
the lab in, or at least I thought there was.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Jeff Rensink <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm starting to think about lab strategy to help guide my hands-on
> practice.  I have a few thoughts as to order of operations and config
> methods. But I wanted to see what the group thought and what has worked
> well for them.
>
> In terms of an order of operations, what have you found to be useful?
>
> Obviously, to start things off you will want to read through the lab,
> write out your own diagrams and any other initial notes to help organize
> the information in a meaningful way.  I'm more looking to see which
> sections/technologies should be done first and which can wait until later.
>
> When it comes to picking your sections/tasks to work on, what has been
> your order of operations?
>
>
> Another area that I wonder about is what is the most efficient way to make
> your configurations.  On the WCS and autonomous APs, we have both CLI and
> GUIs.  We also have the WCS that can be used to configure WLCs and their
> associated APs.  What have you found to be the most efficient method to
> make your configurations?
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:33:28 -0400
From: Jason Boyers <[email protected]>
To: Jeff Rensink <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Wireless] Lab strategy thoughts?
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In general, here are my recommendations:

1) Quickly review the test doc and diagram while reading

2) Configure the switched network/routing/wired QoS/multicast section,
since everything is dependent on that working properly.

3) Configure autonomous APs section.  You should finish these (#1-3) in
about 3 hours.  In San Jose, that gets you to lunch.  Be sure to save
configs regularly!  Then, I rebooted before going to lunch.

4) Do a minimal config of the WLCs.  Basically, items that are individually
applicable to a controller (interfaces), items that are easy to copy and
paste (mobility and rf group names), and anything that would require the
WLCs to be rebooted (adding certs, SNMPv3, etc.)  Notepad is your friend,
with copy and paste.  Be careful to change things as necessary for each WLC.

5) Import the WLCs into WCS.  Then configure WLCs using templates, but
don't use WLC Config Groups - they take too much time for the test.  This
would also include configuring the video and voice section.

6) Finish configuring WCS and add the MSE.

7) Configure clients for connectivity.

8) You should have 1-2 hours left at this point to validate the
configurations.  Now, there should be some general validation going on
throughout (can you ping??)  This is doing full validations.

This was a successful process for me.  One key is to figure out how to do
each part of the process the fastest for you.  I listed what worked for
me.  Another is to have that time at the end.  You will misread and fat
finger things.  You need time to review what you've configured.

Hope this helps.

Jason Boyers, CCIE #26024 (Wireless)
Blog: netboyers.wordpress.com


On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Jeff Rensink <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm starting to think about lab strategy to help guide my hands-on
> practice.  I have a few thoughts as to order of operations and config
> methods. But I wanted to see what the group thought and what has worked
> well for them.
>
> In terms of an order of operations, what have you found to be useful?
>
> Obviously, to start things off you will want to read through the lab,
> write out your own diagrams and any other initial notes to help organize
> the information in a meaningful way.  I'm more looking to see which
> sections/technologies should be done first and which can wait until later.
>
> When it comes to picking your sections/tasks to work on, what has been
> your order of operations?
>
>
> Another area that I wonder about is what is the most efficient way to make
> your configurations.  On the WCS and autonomous APs, we have both CLI and
> GUIs.  We also have the WCS that can be used to configure WLCs and their
> associated APs.  What have you found to be the most efficient method to
> make your configurations?
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
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