Hi

if you can make it this week,
maybe we can squeeze it into the 1.4.3 release


with kind regards
Ruben Willems

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Per-Jonny Käck <[email protected]> wrote:

> Great, I think we have reached some kind of consensus now.
> I will look into creating a new patch using the TortoiseSVN client.
> The LastChangeLabeller behavior will be:
>
> With prefix="pre" and allowDuplicateSubsequentLabels=false:
> pre1234.1
> pre1234.2
> pre1235.1
> ->change configuration file and set prefix="new", then trigger a forced
> build without modifications
> pre1235.2
> new1236.1
> new1236.2
>
> With prefix="pre" and allowDuplicateSubsequentLabels=true:
> pre1234
> pre1234
> pre1235
> ->change configuration file and set prefix="new", then trigger a forced
> build without modifications
> pre1235
> new1236
> new1236
>
> To minimize the impact on existing projects,
> allowDuplicateSubsequentLabels=true will be the default behavior.
>
> //P-J
>
> 2009/2/18 [email protected] <[email protected]>
>
>
>> Well, I'd like to thank you to you guys for bringing this back up
>> again. I did find the patch for lastchangelabeller on the developers
>> forum, but Im unsure of how to implement it. All I need it for
>> lastchangelabeller to stop throwing an unknown if there is no
>> transactions between builds.
>> I think my requirements are similiar to Shauns....having it increment
>> with a xxx.1 xxx.2 is fine by me.
>>
>> On Feb 18, 6:51 am, Ruben Willems <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi...
>> >
>> > read more »
>> >
>> > just sparsely following this discussion
>> > each labeler stands on its own, thre is no reletion between 2 labellers.
>> >
>> > the more the labellers act the same in a given situation, the better of
>> > course,
>> > but this does not have to be. If there is a good reason, why not do it.
>> >
>> > there is a big change between the datalabeller and the default labeller
>> ;-)
>> >
>> > Do keep in mind that when you make a breaking change, is not fun.
>> > So try to keep the existing default behaviour if possible.
>> > Adding extra properties is not a problem, as long as this doe snot
>> result in
>> > stuff like this
>> >
>> > bool UseNewSetup
>> >
>> > and than somewhere in code
>> >
>> > if (UseNewSetup)
>> > {
>> >  bla bla
>> >
>> > }
>> >
>> > in this case it would make more sense to create a new labeller with the
>> > desired behaviour
>> >
>> > my 2 cents
>> >
>> > with kind regards
>> > Ruben Willems
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Per-Jonny Käck <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > I can agree with you that either forcing .nnn for all labels, or
>> pre1234
>> > > followed by pre1234.2 would be more logical.
>> > > It's just that the FileLabeller is implemented as pre1234 followed by
>> > > 1234-1.
>> > > And lukes propsed patch seems to follow the same scheme.
>> > > The question is if it is better have a consistent behavior between the
>> > > label implementations, or a logical implementation of the
>> LastChangeLabeller
>> > > only???
>> > > Is there any CruiseControl.NET developer that has an opinion?
>> >
>> > > //P-J
>> >
>> > > 2009/2/18 CinnamonDonkey <[email protected]>
>> >
>> > >> Sounds good to me P-J,
>> >
>> > >> The only comment I would have but it's just me being pedantic now is
>> > >> that if the labeller is allowing the post fix of '.nnn' then all
>> > >> labels should follow the same scheme:
>> >
>> > >>  pre1234.1
>> > >>  pre1234.2
>> > >>  pre1235.1
>> >
>> > >> ...and not:
>> >
>> > >>  pre1234
>> > >>  pre1234.1
>> > >>  pre1235
>> >
>> > >> ...as this does not seem logical to me. At the very least it should
>> > >> be:
>> >
>> > >>  pre1234         (<-- is effectively pre1234.1 as it was the first
>> > >> build with the label 1234)
>> > >>  pre1234.2
>> >
>> > >> Like I say, I'm just being pedantic.
>> >
>> > >> Shaun ;-)
>> >
>> > >> On 18 Feb, 10:48, P-J <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> > Yes, we are talking about the same thing concerning duplicate
>> labels.
>> >
>> > >> > About my next paragaraph, it only applies if you have specified a
>> > >> > prefix.
>> > >> > Let's say you are currently using the string "pre" as prefix, and
>> you
>> > >> > have set AllowDuplicateSubsequentLabels=true for our new
>> > >> > LastChangeLabeller.
>> > >> > Using your examples, the labels would look like this:
>> > >> > pre1234
>> > >> > pre1234
>> > >> > pre1235
>> > >> > At this point change your configuration file and set the label
>> prefix
>> > >> > to the string "new", then force a new build without modifications,
>> and
>> > >> > the labels will be as follows.
>> > >> > pre1235
>> > >> > new1236
>> > >> > new1237
>> >
>> > >> > With AllowDuplicateSubsequentLabels=False the labels would be:
>> > >> > pre1234
>> > >> > pre1234.1
>> > >> > pre1235
>> > >> > At this point change your configuration file and set the label
>> prefix
>> > >> > to the string "new", then force a new build without modifications,
>> and
>> > >> > the labels will be as follows.
>> > >> > pre1235.1
>> > >> > new1236
>> > >> > new1237
>> >
>> > >> > Personally I think this behavior would be ok, i.e. that the change
>> of
>> > >> > the prefix will not be visible until you have a new build with
>> > >> > modifications.
>> > >> > The good thing is about this solution is that it is easy to use and
>> > >> > understand, and doesn't restrict your choice of prefix in any way.
>> >
>> > >> > //P-J
>> >
>> > >> > On 18 Feb, 11:29, CinnamonDonkey <[email protected]>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >> > > Hi P-J,
>> >
>> > >> > > Adding a new attribute, "AllowDuplicateSubsequentLabels" sounds
>> like a
>> > >> > > good plan as it allows more flexibility to the end user and
>> satisfies
>> > >> > > my own requirements.
>> >
>> > >> > > I'm not sure I fully understand the next paragraph, but I think
>> we are
>> > >> > > talking about the same thing.
>> >
>> > >> > > If I can end up with:
>> >
>> > >> > > 1234
>> > >> > > 1234
>> > >> > > 1235
>> > >> > > 1235
>> > >> > > 1236
>> > >> > > 1237
>> >
>> > >> > > I'll be a very happy chappie, but I could live with:
>> >
>> > >> > > 1234.1
>> > >> > > 1234.2
>> > >> > > 1235.1
>> > >> > > 1235.2
>> > >> > > 1236.1
>> > >> > > 1237.1
>> >
>> > >> > > If it was a necessary compromise but I think the post fix should
>> be
>> > >> > > optional.
>> >
>> > >> > > Shaun
>> >
>> > >> > > On 18 Feb, 08:25, Per-Jonny Käck <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> > > > Ok, then a "AllowDuplicateSubsequentLabels" attribute (e.g.
>> used by
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > FileLabeller) should be added to lukes patch, since his patch
>> always
>> > >> > > > increments the latest label.
>> >
>> > >> > > > Do you have any problems with that if you change the prefix in
>> your
>> > >> > > > configuration file, then you won't see the new prefix until
>> there is
>> > >> a new
>> > >> > > > build with modifications, since builds without modifications
>> will be
>> > >> > > > labelled based on the last label. I think this behavior would
>> be ok,
>> > >> and it
>> > >> > > > makes the source code much cleaner.
>> >
>> > >> > > > //P-J
>> >
>> > >> > > > 2009/2/18 CinnamonDonkey <[email protected]>
>> >
>> > >> > > > > Our requirement is that each build is labelled with the
>> change
>> > >> list
>> > >> > > > > number (we use Perforce) used to create that build. This
>> means
>> > >> that we
>> > >> > > > > can relate any particular build directly back to a specific
>> point
>> > >> in
>> > >> > > > > the source history. Anything else is meaningless.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > Since the change list numbers are unique an represent a
>> particular
>> > >> > > > > moment in time this should be perfectly possible.
>> >
>> > >> > > > >   - If a modification exists use the highest retrieved
>> > >> modification
>> > >> > > > > change list number.
>> > >> > > > >   - If no modifications exist, we must still be on the same
>> > >> > > > > modification change list number.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > Duplicated labels should be valid as the build date/time
>> stamp is
>> > >> used
>> > >> > > > > to reflect the exact identity of that build. The label
>> correlates
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > > build with the source.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > For us anyway (everyone's requirements are different ;).
>> >
>> > >> > > > > Regards,
>> > >> > > > > Shaun
>> >
>> > >> > > > > On 18 Feb, 08:04, P-J <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> > > > > > This is still an issue on the latest build.
>> > >> > > > > > The LastChangeLabeller is not good enough, and requires a
>> patch.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > The problem has also recently been mentioned e.g. in the
>> > >> following
>> > >> > > > > > ccnet-user threads:
>> > >> > > > > > "<LastChangelabeller> :Accurev/CCNET error: Given
>> Update...".
>> > >> > > > > > "LastChangeLabeller issue in case of a forced build with no
>> > >> changes in
>> > >> > > > > > SVN"
>> > >> > > > > > "LastChangeLabeller and Unknown with Accurev"
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > A patch has been submitted by luke to ccnet-devel, thread
>> > >> "Improving
>> > >> > > > > > the LastChangeLabeler".
>> > >> > > > > > His patch appends a ".1" or increment an existing integer
>> to the
>> > >> last
>> > >> > > > > > label, instead of creating an "unkown" label.
>> > >> > > > > > Is this good enough for everyone? In this patch:
>> > >> > > > > > - If you change the Prefix in your config file, and then
>> make a
>> > >> forced
>> > >> > > > > > build with no modifications, then his patch will return an
>> > >> incremented
>> > >> > > > > > label with the old prefix. Is this ok?
>> > >> > > > > > - There is no "AllowDuplicateSubsequentLabels" to choose if
>> you
>> > >> only
>> > >> > > > > > want the LastChangeLabeller to return the latest label, or
>> if
>> > >> you want
>> > >> > > > > > it to return the latest label with an incremented suffix.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > What do you want?
>> > >> > > > > > I would be happy to contribute if could just get this into
>> the
>> > >> trunk!
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > Regards,
>> > >> > > > > > //P-J
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > On 10 Feb, 21:31, "[email protected]" <
>> > >> [email protected]>
>> > >> > > > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > Hey thanks for the response. To be clear:
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > I am using the "lastChangeLabeller" with the Accurev
>> source
>> > >> control
>> > >> > > > > > > system. And I have noticed the EXACT issue: That if a
>> build
>> > >> process is
>> > >> > > > > > > triggered and "No
>> > >> > > > > > > Modifications" are detected. The labeller labels the
>> build as
>> > >> > > > > > > "UNKNOWN".
>> > >> > > > > > > Another wrinkle: because Im doing snapshots of each
>> build,
>> > >> that name
>> > >> > > > > > > 'unknown' is already being used, and the build fails.
>> > >> > > > > > > I agree that, "if no modifications are detected, then the
>> > >> label should
>> > >> > > > > > > simply
>> > >> > > > > > > remain unchanged and be what it was for the previous
>> build"
>> > >> > > > > > > Or something unique (iterative).
>> > >> > > > > > > This is a show stopper for me. If I cant fix it, we will
>> have
>> > >> to
>> > >> > > > > > > change the tagging and labeling to date based, I'd rather
>> keep
>> > >> it
>> > >> > > > > > > transaction based.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > Is there a way around this?
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > Im using CCNET version : 1.4.0.3524
>> > >> > > > > > > Id appreciate if someone could share a workaround/fix or
>> > >> definitely
>> > >> > > > > > > tell me I have to suck it up and upgrade.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > thanks,
>> > >> > > > > > > Russ
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > On Feb 10, 3:13 am, CinnamonDonkey <
>> > >> [email protected]>
>> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > > I'm affriad I still haven't tried this out yet.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > > I was hoping for 1.4.3 to be released before I do any
>> > >> upgrades.
>> > >> > > > > Having
>> > >> > > > > > > > made so many changes to my installation I want to
>> minimise
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > > numbert
>> > >> > > > > > > > of times I do upgrades.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > > Shaun
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > > On 9 Feb, 21:23, "[email protected]" <
>> > >> [email protected]>
>> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > > > I have a similiar problem as well.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > > > On Feb 9, 11:14 am, P-J <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > > > > What's the status on this? I have the same problem.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > > > > When theLastChangeLabellerstarts to remember the
>> last
>> > >> label, it
>> > >> > > > > > > > > > would also be a good idea to add the
>> > >> > > > > "AllowDuplicateSubsequentLabels"
>> > >> > > > > > > > > > property and suffix functionality from the
>> FileLabeller.
>> >
>> > >> > > > > > > > > > //P-J
>> >
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