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Hi Philippe,

Now when did you ever hear of a Scot giving something away for free? :-)

We do apply educational discounts, but accept that the display workstation (this is a desk sized unit complete with a second 20" UXGA flat panel in addition to your 3D screen) is a high end product that will only appeal to those with a need for very detailed stereoscopic interpretation over extended periods - hence the advantage of zero stereo cross-talk and lack of glasses - the IRIS is the ONLY commercially available zero-cross talk 3D display and really does allow you to work all day in stereo mode without any of the deleterious physiological side effects associated with the cheaper solutions you mention! Then again, if you only use stereo for brief periods at a time you are probably better off using lower-cost options using glasses or othe autostereoscopic solutions from the likes of Sharp, SeeReal, DTi etc.

I forgot to mention that the display also has a optional extra - the IRIS PPS (Passive Projection System) which enables you to drive a projection room facility from the IRIS if you need to have multi-user review - basically a dual projector assembly that plugs into the rear of the IRIS workstation.........and no, before you ask Philippe, this isn't going free either :-) sorry.

We are co-hosting a user week in central London on the week of February 20th. Its an open event, and free (yes FREE) if you want to pop along and use the system in anger. This hasn't even been announced on our website yet, so you heard it hear first folks!

STEREOSCOPIC TECHNOLOGY SHOWCASE, London, 20-24th February 2006.

In partnership with Inition, the UK's leading independent visualisation specialist, IRIS-3D are participating in a week-long "open-house" event to enable end users to try some of the latest 3D visualisation hardware on the market. The IRIS glasses-free 3D display will be demonstrated using 3D software from a range of industries and applications. The IRIS will also be used to demonstrate haptics as an intuitive means of interaction with your 3D data set and, for the first time, the IRIS PPS (Passive Projection System) add-on will be shown - enabling you to transform your IRIS workstation into a multi-user collaboration workroom tool.

We anticipate a busy week, and so if you are travelling from outwith London, please do let us know in advance and we will endeavour to book you a session on the IRIS at a time convenient to you. Map and directions can be found on the Inition website:

http://www.inition.co.uk/inition/open_week_stereoscopic.htm

Looking forward to seeing you there!


Regards,

Stuart

Stuart McKay, PhD
CEO
IRIS-3D Ltd
James Weir Building
75 Montrose St
Glasgow G1 1XJ
Scotland, UK

(T) +44-141-548-2423
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http://www.iris3d.com

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Hi Stuart,

Well, 20,000 £ (ex VAT) for a 20" UXGA is probably not something a lab
can afford as easily as a CRT + graphic board... unless you would like
to ship some free for advertisement (-;

Best regards,
Philippe

Le 31 janv. 06, à 14:25, Stuart McKay a écrit :

Anastassis,

Interesting to read about the demise of the CRT and your problems with flickering screens.

You (and the other BB members) may be interested to learn of an alternative technology from IRIS-3D in the UK. Historically targeted at the Oil and Gas Sector for subsurface imaging, it is now being evaluated in the Life Sciences. This product does not suffer from the flickering issues mentioned in this thread, being based around dual projection LCD technology and not requiring special glasses to view:

The IRIS solution is a glasses-free 3D display system that enables you to work at up to UXGA resolution in stereo mode, is 2D/3D compatible, can be used in a normal office environment, does not suffer from stereo cross-talk (this means no more ghosting, eye-strain or headaches - enabling you to concentrate on your data rather than be distracted by the display technology) and is compatible with all stereo enabled software on a wide range of SW/HW platforms.

More information is available from the company website or by contacting me directly.

Regards,

Stuart
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Stuart McKay, PhD
CEO
IRIS-3D Ltd
James Weir Building
75 Montrose St
Glasgow G1 1XJ
Scotland, UK

(T) +44-141-548-2423
(F) +44-141-552-5105
(M) +44 7786 073663

http://www.iris3d.com


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From: Anastassis Perrakis
To: Warren DeLano
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:08 AM
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Hi all -

While on the subject and after thanking Warren for providing the excellent resource ...:

We have some nice 3D monitors and Nvidia cards in Linux PC's we do stereo with.

Warren correctly points out that you need:

1280x960 @ 120 Hz requires H-sync of 123 kHz 1344x1008 @ 120 Hz requires H-sync of 130 kHz 1400x1050 @ 120 Hz requires H-sync of 136 kHz (In fact you need your monitor to switch to these refresh rates only when in stereo, but thats a detail)

However, I am totally unable to convince the NVidia drivers we have for Linux to operate at the sync rates I want them to and Warren advices! Thus, we have noticeable flicker at stereo mode (in the non-stereo windows only) which is a shame, given our excellent monitors.
Is that expected or can be corrected ?

Could anyone please advice me how to set the Nvidia Linux drivers to operate at the proper sync rates then ?

Tassos

PS - Iiyama Vision Master Pro 514 / HM204DT (H-sync: 142 kHz) is still available by some European vendors new and is great, we have two, plus an old trusty EIZO T966 which is also cool. (Warren, I could not find that on your list,its a good machine, does 136 and you might be able to find one still)


On Jan 28, 2006, at 20:59, Warren DeLano wrote:

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Folks,

Whether you favor Macintosh, Linux, or Windows for stereo 3D
visualization, you're going to need some specific (and increasingly
rare) hardware.
To help you find it, we've just updated our information page on
stereo-3D-capable displays, cards, emitters, and glasses:

http://pymol.sf.net/stereo3d.html

Remarkably, we can now only find one company selling a brand new CRT
monitor suitable for stereo 3D. If you find any others, please do let
us know!

Cheers,
Warren

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