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We routinely try Trypsin, Chymotrypsin, papain and elastase 
1st trial is usually 4°C incubation and taking aliquts at several timepoints 
(30 min - overnight).
when we see cleavage in SDS PAGE we continue as Tim lined out
identification of stable fragments has worked in several cases (including 
trypsin:-)

best wishes
alex

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Cc: Wang, Yeming (NIH/NIEHS) [F]; [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb]: boundaries of new constructs


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It would be nice if those who have had success on limited proteolysis 
could share which proteases they are using. We've tryed limited trypsin 
digestion but mostly end up with total hydrolysis or no visible effect 
(the target proteins have natural protease sensitive sites which we 
expect to be proteolysed and thus the effect be visible on a gel).

with best regards,
Pirkko Heikinheimo

Tim Gruene wrote:
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> I would recommend restricted proteolysis, i.e., a time series of digestion
> with various proteases. Start with concentration ratios of 1:500
> protease:your_protein and check the success by SDS-PAGE. The N-terminus
> can be determined by N-terminal sequencing. For the C-terminus you can try
> to scale up, run a gel filtration column or (probably better) an ion
> exchange column + GF and do a mass spec.
> 
> If mass spec does not work (proteins soluble at high salt concentrations
> only are a hinderence or if the domains are not well defined by the
> proteolysis), you can estimate the weight from SDS-PAGE and make use of
> the secondary structure prediction, available e.g. through the
> expasyserver (www.expasy.ch).
> 
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> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Wang, Yeming (NIH/NIEHS) [F] wrote:
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>> Sorry for the off-topic question!
>>
>> My current construct of a new protein (has some homologs) doesn't seem to be 
>> good and I have to make some new ones. I am just wondering how to determine 
>> the N-terminus & C-terminus of new constructs if I am only interested in 
>> structural study of a few domains. Any good methods or softwares to 
>> recommend?  Thanks a lot!
>>
>> Yeming
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