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Dear all

Thanks for your many suggestions. These included partial disorder in the ligand, incorrect chirality, bond cleavage, D/L isomerisation of the peptide ligand, incorrect assignment of atom type and model bias during building.
It turns out the solution was the following, from Corey Strickland:

Dear all

I have a problem with the ligand in my protein-ligand structure: it's a peptide analogue and one of the peptide bond N atoms shows a very strong negative peak (<-10sigma) in the Fobs-Fcalc map.

I am nearing the end of refinement and everything looks fine apart from this one atom. Resolution = 43.0 - 2.18A, Rcryst = 19.3% Rfree = 24.6%. I've been using CNS and O. I added the ligand as follows: build with ProDrg, place with Arp/warp in CCP4i using default settings and then some manual torsioning in O. I was careful to keep the peptide bonds planar. The Fobs-Fcalc and map looks fine for the whole ligand except for this one N. It also fits the composite omit map nicely. The ligand B-factors are ~35 - which seems a little high perhaps but not enough to warrant what I'm seeing. (I think occupancy is probably not 100%, although I haven't tried refining occupancies). The B-factor of the N in question is 57 - the highest in the ligand. I've done 3 build-refine steps since adding the ligand and the negative density hasn't changed.. Admittedly, these were limited to minor adjustments and I didn't carry out more than15 minimisation steps per cycle, however it doesn't look like the problem will be solved by further refinement. There is no positive density that might indicate incorrect positioning of the atom.

I asked the organic chemist who synthesised this ligand and he assures me there is no way the atom could be anything other than a N. My only other thought is perhaps this atom is different, in terms of electrons, from a typical peptide N? It's the peptide bond before the ligand C-terminus. Also the ligand is not a true peptide: the N of the previous peptide bond (to the N-terminal side of the problematic one) has been replaced by a C and the adjacent carbonyl group has formed a gem-diol at the active site zinc ion. The offending N and the gem-diol are separated by two CH2's and a carbonyl group.

Can anyone shed some light? Or at least can anyone suggest something else I could try?

Jean Watermeyer




Jean,

        In your topology and parameter files for CNS, what is the atom
type given for the nitrogen (Also, check the atom name in the PDB file).
This sounds like the scattering factor assigned to the nitrogen is not
actually nitrogen.   You can check the log for the cns run and look at
the list for the scattering factors that are used.

Corey


Hi Corey

Here are the lines from the top file that refer to the N in question (which is called 'N' in the pdb):

MASS NB     14.0067   ! equivalent to     N

ATOM N    TYPE=NB    CHARGE= 0.145 END

These are the only lines in the log files that refer to scattering:
XRAY>   @CNS_XRAYLIB:scatter.lib
ASSFIL: file /usr/local/CNS/cns_solve_1.1/libraries/xray/scatter.lib opened.
XRAY>! file libraries/xray/scatter.lib

The entry in scatter.lib for N is:
SCATter ( chemical N* and not
       ( chem "Ne" or chem "NE" or
         chem "Na" or chem "NA" or chem "Na+1" or chem "NA+1" or
chem "Ni" or chem "NI" or chem "Ni+2" or chem "NI+2" or chem "Ni+3" or chem "NI+3" or chem "Nb" or chem "NB" or chem "Nb+3" or chem "NB+3" or chem "Nb+5" or chem "NB+5" or
         chem "Nd" or chem "ND" or chem "Nd+3" or chem "ND+3" or
chem "Npp" or chem "NPP" or chem "Np+3" or chem "NP+3" or chem "Np+4" or chem "NP+4" or
         chem "Np+6" or chem "NP+6" ))
 12.2126 0.0057 3.1322 9.8933 2.0125 28.9975 1.1663 0.5826 -11.529


- and as far as I can tell the atom has been assigned chemical type N, which should be right shouldn't it?
Can you spot a mistake here?

Thanks for your help
Jean



Jean,

        Your problem is below.   The scatter.lib entry says to select N
if it is not one of the others, i.e. NB.    The atom type NB is reserved
for another element, Nb (Niobium) which is much heavier than Nitrogen!
Change the NB atom type to something that is not in the list below and
your peak will go away.  Be careful, you will have to make other changes
when you change that 1 atom type, because there are parameters that are
defined by atom type, and the NB's in those statements will also have to
be changed.

        This is a major hassle when you use other ligands than standard
proteins.  I make my own copy of the scatter.lib file from CNS and just
include the normal elements.  It is unlikely we will refine a structure
with a Nb element.

Corey


Dear Jean,
    Check if the atom types are properly defined in topology and
parameter files.  There is a possiblity that the contributing structure
factor will be high for this atom.  One possibility : for example - if you
have mentioned NA instead of N in the defenition for toplogy and parameter
file..(which might mean that it is Sodium atom rather than Nitrogen as
defined in the scatter.lib).
HTH,
best wishes,
Natesh
IGBMC



I followed his advice and made a local copy of scatter.lib, from which I deleted all the unusual atoms. I then reran the previous round of refinement, and saw a significant decrease in R and Rfree as early as step 1. (You also have to edit the later parts of the CNS script to read in scatter.lib from a new location). I made a new Fobs-Fcalc map and this looks like a perfectly normal ligand that still requires some adjusting: no strange negative peaks anymore.

Robert Immormino suggests the follwing for getting around having to edit the scatter.lib.

Jean,

I think you and Corey have found the problem!

Prodrg does give weird atom names...And if they conflict with heavy
atoms, then as you've found it can cause problems.  The general
workaround that I have used is to draw the ligand, and submit that to
prodrg.  Then take the output .pdb file and change the names of the
atoms and re-run prodrg with this .pdb. This gets rid of 99% of the
problems, but manual editing of the parameter and topology files is
still sometimes necessary.  It might also be worth trying this
approach in parallel with changing the scattering factor library.

Best Wishes,

-bob


Thanks again.  It's great to solve a problem so quickly!

Jean





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