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On Sep 9, 2006, at 3:20, Qun Wan wrote:

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Hi,
I have a couple of questions during model refinement. Hopefully someone could help me. My crystal diffracted to 2.4Å resolution with molecular weight 40KD. The crystal belongs to P212121 space group with unit cell dimension a=72Å, b=73Å, c=88Å. The crystal is not twinned. After molecular replacement in the resolution range 20-4Å, I got a very good peak for later CNS refinement.

In rigid body refinement, I am not sure which resolution range I should use, 20-4Å or 20-2.4Å? I tried both. If I use 20-4Å data, R=0.3355, Rfree=0.3265. If I use 20-2.4Å data, R=0.3304, Rfree=0.3207. After 20-4Å rigid body refinement, I also do phase extension gradually from 4Å to 2.4Å (that is, rigid body refinement 20-4.0Å, then 3.5Å, then 3.2Å, ...until 2.4Å), the result is R=0.3360, Rfree=0.3268. From the results of R and Rfree, I believe I should use 20-2.4Å in rigid body refinement. However, I was told to use 20-4.0Å first, then do phase extension like I said above. Could anyone tell me why?

I don't know why you were told to do so. Maybe the person who had told you to do so, can tell you why he told you to do so, so you can tell us why he told you to do so ? ;-)

I would use 20-2.4, as you concluded by yourself - in my opinion correctly - that it is the best thing to do.

I would even say that molrep/amore/phaser do good enough rigid body refinement, that you don't need to do it at all in most cases, and you can jump straight to refinement (of course, ARP/wARP+REFMAC would do a good job at 2.4 A and give a good map with a fairly complete new model and would have minimized manual intervention - try it next time ...!)


The second question is after final refinement and model building, my R=0.2133, Rfree=0.2333. It looks good. Then I validate the model by some other programs, like procheck, what If, and MolProbity. After a painstaking work, I am frustrated to find that my R=0.2056, Rfree=0.2398. I am confused why after rotamer correction, Ramachandran check, water check, collision check, etc., my Rfree increased, not decrease?!

Well - no answer, but I would not worry about it. The difference is not really significant at all. But, your model is significantly better after correcting all the details - well done !

btw: R and Rfree are a bit too close - might be due to your over- careful work ;-)
But both numbers indicate you did a good job - so enjoy the structure.

Tassos


Your help is greatly appreciated!



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