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I totally agree.  but in this case, I believe the goal is to get an image for 
publication (which seems to be subjective, since I have seen some pretty bad 
images with terrible resolution in some nice journals).  

For me, I prefer to make images at the highest quality that I ever think i will 
ever need (in real world situations).  This way, if I ever need the image for 
something else, I don't have to remake the image at a higher resolution.  It is 
just a waste of time.  I think it is better to have an image that is 'too good' 
than an image that is 'just not good enough.'  Sure, you can have the perfect 
image, that is the perfect size and the perfect resolution, but I believe this 
eliminates the flexibility of ever using this image for other things, 
especially if the image is too small.  Plus, with todays PC power, it is just 
as simple and painless to make the higher resolution image to begin with, which 
you can then edit as you like in your favorite image editing software.

Same world, just different view.



Cheers,
Nick








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From: Anastassis Perrakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:10:29 +0200
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb]: thickness of the stick model


On 14 Oct 2006, at 18:10, Nicholas Noinaj wrote:

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> shivesh,
>
> NOpe, you cannot directly export image file from Pymol to Jpeg (unless 
> this has changed recently).  But it is quite easy to save as PNG and 
> then use some image editing program to convert to JPEG if you like.  I 
> recommend saving at around 1200 X 1200 (at least) with dpi set to 300. 
>  if you don't know how to do this, please let me know.  it makes a big 
> difference in the image quality.

That really depends what you want to do !!!

For a PowerPoint presentation its utterly pointless to save anything to 
more than about 640x480, you need even less
if the image is planned to be a small portion of the slide. I have 
often rendered 120x80 images and they look great, since
thats as many pixels that the projector can spare for that size of an 
image in my presentation.
Do organize sizes in advance, don't go messing about making images 
smaller and bigger in PP, you just make quality worse.

If you want now a picture for an A0 poster for your next meeting, to 
dominate in about 40x30 cm (about 16x12 inches),
and you will print that at the expensive new institute printer that 
does 300dpi, to achieve the desired quality you need
about 4800x3600 pixels !!!

btw, all presentation programs these days accept PNG - its a nice 
format and no real need to make JPEGs.
JPEGs are really good for your camera, but at least in a few cases JPEG 
compression is not good for molecular graphics.

> The bond radius in stick representations can be changed by typing "set 
> stick_radius = [VALUE]" or "set stick_radius = 0.8" for example.  You 
> will have to play with the exact value to please your taste.
>
> Here is a link that you will most likely find very useful for some of 
> your needs.
>
> http://morse.bio.jhu.edu/pymol/pymol_display.htm
>
> Again, best of luck!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Nick
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "shivesh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 04:32:52 -0700
> Subject: [ccp4bb]: thickness of the stick model
>
> Dear all,
> How can I save the image in JPEG format and can I decrease the 
> thickness of
> stick for better representation in electron density map...Thanx in 
> advance.
> Shivesh
>
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ck model
>
> Dear all,
> How can I save the image in JPEG format and can I decrease the 
> thickness of
> stick for better representation in electron density map...Thanx in 
> advance.
> Shivesh
>
>
> ________________________________________
>
> Nicholas Noinaj
> University of Kentucky College of Medicine
> Department of Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry
> The Center for Structural Biology
> Biomedical Biological Sciences Research Building, Rm 236
> 741 S. Limestone
> Lexington, Ky 40536
> Lab:  859-323-8183
> Cell:  859-893-4789
> Home:  859-228-0978
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> noinaj.com
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A. Perrakis PhD, Project Leader
Dept. Molecular Carcinogenesis
Netherland Cancer Institute
Plesmanla
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Nicholas Noinaj
University of Kentucky College of Medicine
Department of Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry
The Center for Structural Biology
Biomedical Biological Sciences Research Building, Rm 236
741 S. Limestone
Lexington, Ky 40536
Lab:  859-323-8183
Cell:  859-893-4789
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