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Andreas Forster wrote:

The good thing with a PC notebook is that you get a usable touchpad and an ALT key that lets you access menus without taking your hands off the keyboard, the lack of both of which drives me up the wall every time I sit in front of a Mac portable.


If you use the CTRL key instead of the ALT you will get also on a Mac accessiblae menues when using the up or down arrows :-)


How to decide on a notebook? Sit in front of those you find interesting (all with dedicated graphics, obviously) and pick the one whose keyboard and screen you like the most. The differences on the outside are bigger than those on the inside.

The dedicated graphics I assume is talking about x MB of VRAM. Recently a lab member obtained "almost" the priciest fruit without dedicated RAM a MacBook C2D (Core2 Duo, not to be mixed up by the revision A model which is only CD). I thought this would be the bottleneck for the whole system and it turns out that the Open GL test (from XBench) scores with 244.6 points versus my Revision A MacBook Pro also with 2 GB RAM and a RadeonX1600 with 128 MB VRAM only 134.4 points. The overall Xbench score for the MacBook C2D (2 GHz, 2GB RAM) is 105.53 points versus 75.64 for the MacBookPro Revision A(1.83 GHz, 2GB RAM) model.

I therefore think you can't state that dedicated RAM is better.

Juergen


Andreas

On 11/30/06, *William Scott* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

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    Even though I am too cranky about my recent Apple laptop
    experience to
    recommend it to anyone other than the most annoying of enzymologists,
    I will say that the integrated graphics card was one thing that
    was better
    than expected.  It passes the pymol and coot tests with flying
    colors,
    which is great until the machine overheats and shuts down in the
    middle of
    a presentation.



    On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Winter, G (Graeme) wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > If you are looking for a machine for doing e.g. model building with
    > coot, I would look for one with "dedicated graphics memory" and
    try to
    > avoid anything with integrated graphics (nvidia & ati are pretty
    good).
    >
    > Hardware wise, I have always found sony systems pretty easy to
    put Linux
    > on (I use SuSE, but I anticiate that most are fairly
    straightforward)
    > and any laptop you but today should have enough "grunt" to perform
    > almost all crystallography tasks. The dual core (core duo?)
    systems are
    > pretty neat in that regard.
    >
    > Finally, have you thought about the mac laptops? From what I can
    see you
    > have the advantage that the system comes ready for doing "real
    work" on
    > ( e.g. you don't have to fiddle with getting linux working) and
    stuff
    > like wireless works out of the box as well.
    >
    > Hope this helps,
    >
    > Graeme
    >
    > ________________________________
    >
    > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On
    Behalf Of
    > shivesh kumar
    > Sent: 30 November 2006 04:07
    > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    > Subject: [ccp4bb]: laptop for ccp4i
    >
    >
    > Dear all,
    > For installing CCP4i and CNS and other graphics program which
    laptop I
    > should buy.Whether it should be of  linux operating system of any
    > other.How about HP pavillion.Any suggestion is welcome.
    > Thanx in advance.
    > S
    >




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