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Hi Paul:

The map is 4.2 A, and if you download this in coot and display it, you
will see what I am talking about.  Also if I use your density fit
validation, geometry validation, Ramachandran, and so on, it looks pretty
reasonable for a 4.2 A structure.  At that resolution, alpha helices are
tubes of density.  The side chain density in many cases (particularly the
aromatics) is remarkably decent-looking, and it is less that obvious with
an integral membrane protein that the Eisenberg analysis would be
definitive.

I've never met this guy in my life, but I think this is a genuine case of
bad luck.  I think that is what is so disturbing about this.

Bill



Paul Emsley wrote:
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> Their tool is available on the web: Verify3D:
> http://nihserver.mbi.ucla.edu/Verify_3D/
>
> Secondly, really, how *can* you build right-handed helices into
> left-handed density with end up with a model that is "frighteningly
> plausible-looking"?
>
>
> [BR]> There got to be more to this story?
>
> I would agree...
>
> -- PE.
>
>
> On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 12:17 -0500, EATON E LATTMAN wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> It is worth remembering the exemplary manner in which David Eisenberg
>> and his group followed up on the flawed structure of
>> rubisco that they published.  First, David gave a long talk at the
>> Diffraction Gordon Conference explaining in detail how the
>> error arose, and offering clear suggestions to the community on how to
>> avoid similar mistakes.  Second, the rubisco structure
>> led the group to develop 3-d profiling, sure one of the most powerful
>> tools we have for evaluating a structure.
>>
>> Thus was a error transformed into a powerful methdologcal tool to
>> minimize the frequency of errors in the future.
>
>> >
>> > Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.
>> > Associate Professor
>> > Dept. of Life Sciences
>> > Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
>> > Beer-Sheva 84105
>> > Israel
>> > Phone: 972-8-647-2220 ; Fax: 646-1710
>> > Skype: boaz.shaanan‎
>

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