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Dear Daniel,

could be, especially if you expect that many copies in the unit cell. The third peak looks suspiciously close to the origin peak +(0,1,0) and could be a ripple peak. I would suggest that you calculate a self-rotation function and a Patterson map (with peak-search) at rather low resolution (~5-6 A). The self-rotation function should indicate the presence of any NCS rotation, the Patterson map should indicate any NCS translation. I find it also very instructive to look at the Patterson map in a graphics program like Coot to get an impression of the clarity and shape of the peaks. A Patterson map covering the whole unit cell is a bit easier to look at. Maybe, these additional informations help you to confirm any potential MR solution.

Good luck,

Dirk.

Daniel Adams wrote:
Dear bb,
I am trying to figure out SRF for P1 space group dataset using Molrep.
The programme indicates the presence of pseudotranlation however the peaks
heights are confusing me...
The output of MOLREP is follows:

-- Fobs  --
-------------
 Fobs: resolution     :     29.89      2.80
 Completeness of Fobs :     0.980
 B_overall of Fobs    :    36.021
 Optical resolution   :     2.005
 Anisotropic distribution of Structure Factors:
 Ratio of Eigen values :  0.9627  0.4958  1.0000
-------------
 Resolution will be used :     29.89      4.00
-------------
INFO: anisothermal correction of Fobs ---
--- Check Patterson for pseudo-translation ---
  PST_limit :   0.125 of origin peak
INFO: pseudo-translation was detected.
       Origin Patterson peak: P,P/sig :      8748.844       140.071
       1 Patterson. peak    : p,P/sig :      1694.444        27.128
       2 Patterson peak     : P,P/sig :       809.574        12.961
       3 Patterson peak     : P,P/sig :       649.761        10.403
       Peak 1: trans.vector /ort/ :        11.342         0.000
0.000
               trans.vector /frac/:         0.152         0.000
0.000
       Peak 2: trans.vector /ort/ :        22.779         0.000
0.000
               trans.vector /frac/:         0.306         0.000
0.000
       Peak 3: trans.vector /ort/ :         2.457        85.961
0.617
               trans.vector /frac/:         0.037         0.948
0.006
INFO:  use keyword: "PST".

Sol_ Space group : P 1
Sol_ No:   1 Sett:   1
Sol_ Cell:  74.540  90.930 120.610  109.23  110.92   90.03

Sol_--- Self Rotation function ---
Sol_
--- anisothermal correction of Fobs ---
 Radius of integration       :   35.00
 Resmin,Resmax               :   29.89    4.00
--- rfcoef for Fobs. ---
 distance limit :     2.000     / grad /

 Number of RF peaks :      30
                     theta    phi     chi    alpha    beta   gamma
Rf      Rf/sigma
Sol_RF   1     0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00          295.0
21.24
Sol_RF   2   172.27  -88.17  180.00   91.83   15.45   88.17     159.1
11.46
Sol_RF   3    97.66   90.33  180.00  270.33  164.69  269.67     137.9
9.93
Sol_RF   4    90.00 -179.40  180.00  313.80  180.00  132.60     121.4
8.74
Sol_RF   5   163.40  -25.19  180.00  154.81   33.19   25.19     118.4
8.53
Sol_RF   6   142.86  -89.96  180.00   90.04   74.28   89.96      98.14
7.07
Sol_RF   7   162.97  -90.08  180.00   89.92   34.05   90.08      97.46
7.02
Sol_RF   8   148.91  -90.06  180.00   89.94   62.18   90.06      96.48
6.95
Sol_RF   9    95.89  -89.67  180.00   90.33  168.23   89.67       95.26
6.86
Sol_RF  10   180.00    0.00  180.00  180.00    0.00    0.00       94.75
6.82
Sol_RF  11   173.15   91.79  180.00  271.79   13.70  268.21     94.34
6.79
Sol_RF  12   157.43   91.67  179.98  271.67   45.14  268.33     94.29
6.79
Sol_RF  13    89.66    1.71   28.37  271.79   28.37   88.38        94.23
6.78
Sol_RF  14    90.34 -178.29   28.37   91.62   28.37  268.21      94.23
6.78
Sol_RF  15   135.06  -89.96  180.00   90.04   89.88   89.96      93.13
6.70
Sol_RF  16   121.29   89.44  180.00  269.44  117.43  270.56     93.11
6.70
Sol_RF  17   165.19   90.06  180.00  270.06   29.61  269.94     92.96
6.69
Sol_RF  18   106.06  -89.84  180.00   90.16  147.88   89.84     92.83
6.68
Sol_RF  19    88.53    0.14   46.03  270.76   46.02   90.49       92.34
6.65
Sol_RF  20    91.47 -179.86   46.03   89.51   46.02  269.24      92.34
6.65
Sol_RF  21   112.75  -89.54  180.00   90.46  134.51   89.54      92.16
6.64
Sol_RF  22   109.99   90.00  180.00  270.00  140.01  270.00     91.80
6.61
Sol_RF  23    89.89 -179.85  120.54   90.34  120.54  270.04     91.11
6.56
Sol_RF  24    90.11    0.15  120.54  269.96  120.54   89.66     91.11
6.56
Sol_RF  25    90.00    0.10  155.48  270.11  155.48   89.90     90.13
6.49
Sol_RF  26    90.00 -179.90  155.48   90.10  155.48  269.89     90.13
6.49
Sol_RF  27   150.73   89.77  180.00  269.77   58.54  270.23     89.47
6.44
Sol_RF  28   115.82   89.94  180.00  269.94  128.37  270.06     89.27
6.43
Sol_RF  29   135.80   90.11  180.00  270.11   88.39  269.89     88.69
6.38
Sol_RF  30    90.24   -0.07   65.22  269.77   65.22   89.91     88.37
6.36

My question is:
1. Is there really a three pseudotranslationally related molecules ?
 my asymmetric unit have 12 molecules (50% solvent content) and
biochemically data indicates either hexameric or tetrameric assembly.
2. What is the best way to figure out the pseudotranslation ?
3. When I do SRF for data containing PST, should I expect SRF for all
molecules or for 1 molecule. I understand that orientation of PST related
molecules should be same.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers

Dan



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