Hello, Sabine.

I believe the technique that Kendall is referring to is Surface Entropy Reduction, which involves replacing large, highly entropic residues on the surface of the protein with lower entropy residues to reduce the entropy shield and facilitate crystallization. Traditionally, the replacement residue was an alanine, but we have recently found that tyrosine and threonine also mediate crystal contacts. Multiple alanine mutations can reduce the solubility, which in your case might not be a bad thing. About 18 difficult to crystallize proteins that we know of have been solved with this technique (6 of them were targets that fell out of the MCSG pipeline).

We have collaborated with the Eisenberg lab to develop a server to suggest mutations to make. The server incorporates the three primary criteria that need to be considered when selecting sites for mutagenesis (as well as some minor ones). These are 1) the entropy of the residues within a continuous stretch, which can be represented as an entropy profile graphed by residue number, 2) the predicted secondary structure, and 3) the sequence conservation.

The server is http://nihserver.mbi.ucla.edu/SER/

I should mention that I am in the Derewenda lab, so I am not an unbiased source, but I am a firm believer in the technique. The paper on using different target residues should be in Acta Cryst before too long (our "minor corrections" have been submitted).

Good luck,
David Cooper

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:03:33 -0500
 Kendall Nettles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sabine, There are protocols to modify surface residues that can help with
crystallization, and make the protein less soluble. Unfortunately, I¹m
drawing a blank on the details. I remember someone in Andrzej Joachimiak¹s
group was working on this as a rescue approach for the structural genomics
pipeline, and it had been previously published by others.

Have you looked at the protein with dynamic light scattering?

Are their cysteines? Are you using reducing agents? Sometimes mutating
cysteines to serines can help.

How much purification have you done? Try ion exchange and gel filtration.

Do you have more than one ligand? I think there is quite a lot of
variability in how different ligands promote crystallization. Are you adding
the ligand in excess? Try a few different molar ratios. If if has high
affinity, you might want to try removing excess unbound ligand at the end.

Good luck!
Kendall

On 2/22/07 9:08 AM, "Schneider Sabine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi everyone,
I am trying to crystallise an extremely soluble and charged protein. It is
~30kDa and has an estimated PI of 5.2 and theoretical charge over pH range
4-10 from + 24 to -29. It is still happy at a concentration of 190mg/ml and
fully reconstituted with its ligand.
I have tried high throughput crystallisation with 10 different screens from
Nextal with concentrations of  60, 100 and 150mg/ml with no NaCl and NaCl
concentrations of 100mM, 300mM and 1M in either Hepes pH 8 or Tris-HCl pH 7.5. The distribution of heavy precipitation, light crystalline precipitation and clear drops through out the screens locks like I am in the right concentration range around the 100mg/ml, but I am not getting any real hit. There are some
drops with extreme phase separation. I also tried changing the temperature
from 20C to 4C. I chased up a few conditions with this strong phase separation (or where I imagined little objects...) by manual screening and also adding additives like 3% Succrose, 50-200mM LiCl, 100mM EDTA, varying the PEGs (1500, 3350, 4000, 6000, 8000) as well as adding NaCl to the reservoir solution in sitting as
well as hanging drop screens. But I am just getting nowhere - either just
precipitation or the drop stays clear with the strong phase separation.
I also re-cloned it with chopping of a few more residues on the N-term where according to a secondary structure prediction a helix starts and it is still very happy at high concentrations, but again nothing in the high-throughput screens. Has anyone any suggestions what else I could try? Thanks! Sabine This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system:
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