Hi, Nick,

An R-factor of 0.16 seems low for a model refined against 2.4 A data. What 
are you using for the MATRIX weight in REFMAC?  Here's a guide for 
selecting a proper MATRIX weight 
http://www.dl.ac.uk/list-archive-public/ccp4bb/2005-10/msg00592.html  For 
refinement against a 2.4 A data set, I usually use a MATRIX weight of 0.1. 
 CNS automatically determines a proper weighting, which is probably why 
the spreads between your residuals with CNS refinement look more 
reasonable.  I would also use a 5% R-free set.  When I started reading 
your post, my first thought was that your Ramachandran plot must look like 
a blast of buckshot.  But if the stereochemistry looks good by PROCHECK, I 
don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with your methods.  Good 
luck,



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Hi, 

I am working on a 2.4 angstrom structure that is in its final stages of 
refinement and finding that REFMAC5 is giving a large difference between R 
and Rfree (10%), 0.16 and 0.29, respectively.  2Fo-Fc maps looks great and 
there is very little density in the difference maps.  My model covers the 
entire protein sequence, except for ~5 residues on N-term and 3 residues 
on C-term.  I then used the model for refinement (annealing) within CNS, 
and found that R and Rfree are relatively similar, 0.2 and 0.28, but in 
better agreement. 

I have read other posts addressing similar questions, but still unsure 
what my problem could be, if there is one.  While I don't mind repeating 
things in CNS, I would really like to learn to be completely reliable on 
CCP4 Suite as much as possible, since i really like the REFMAC5 - Coot 
duo.  I would appreciate any suggestions or comments you might offer. 
Given how nice the density maps look and that the model passes procheck 
analysis with very few suggestions for further investigations, i am unsure 
when to go from here. 

Thanks in advance for all feedback!




Cheers,
Nick

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