I seem to recall a discussion at some Study Weekend where someone
reported a needle crystal in which the twin fraction appeared to vary
continuously from 0 at one end of the needle to 0.5 at the other!  You
just had to make sure you picked the right end to collect the data!

-- Ian 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eleanor Dodson
> Sent: 18 April 2007 09:27
> To: Mark Mayer
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] twin fraction varies between crystals?
> 
> This is a very common thing - twinning is a sort of 
> accidental overlap 
> of crystal fragments and thus will be different for diferent 
> "crystals".  ( Should a twinned object be called a crystal? Discuss)
> 
> More serious - it is probably different for different parts 
> of the data 
> collection if your crystal is smaller than the beam - I dont know if 
> anyone has ever tried to analyse for this.
> In our  experience smaller is often better..
>    Eleanor
> 
>  Mark Mayer wrote:
> > For cases where people have had merohedral twinning, did 
> the twin fraction vary substantially 
> > between individual crystals grown under indentical 
> conditions? I have no prior experience with 
> > merohedral twinning, and was surprised to see that the twin 
> fraction varied substantially as detailed 
> > below, and that by screening we were able to get untwinned xtals. 
> >
> > The project started with a weak home data set for which the 
> twin fraction was 0.478, and which 
> > scaled in both H3 and H32. We just came back from APS with 
> data sets from another three crystals, 
> > for which the ML twin fraction, estimated using 
> phenix.xtriage with scalepack merged intensities as 
> > input, varied from 0.335, 0.219 and 0.02. The latter is 
> refining very nicely, in H3 and will not scale in 
> > H32. 
> >
> > Thanks - Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> 

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