A little comment on not breakable Phoenix needles.
I saw not recoverably bended tips (all 96!) as a result of not very
careful operation (done by rep) during presentation of the instrument, I
do not know how much is 96 nitinol tips set for replacement....

Additionally, you hardly can go with 100+100 nl crystallization drops
using Phoenix, 200+200 is OK. The speed per triple plate is ca. 12 min,
it is long and drops are sitting on shelf open for ~4,5 min. another
annoying problems with Phoenix is electrostatic effect and not accurate
centering of the drops which both create problems for imagers. 

Alexey Rak
Structural Biology, Chemical Sciences
Sanofi-Aventis
Centre de Recherche Paris

-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Lisa A Nagy
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] crystallization robot

We chose the Phoenix crystallization robot because:

It has no expensive consumables (tips) intrinsic to the machine. This
was also a big item for us because we worry about being able to run the
machine for more than 3 years. Would the tips for our 2008 machine be
available in 2014? 

It is easy to program (BIG ITEM) for different tray configurations, and
various dispensing methods- even on the same tray. Right now you may not
think you'll have to vary drop sizes or add additional components
(ligand? detergent?) to your drops, but you probably will.

It can draw from 2ml block plates. Reformatting from block plates to
your trays is a pain.

The nitinol tips won't break (Compared to ~$700 apiece for the
incredibly breakable ceramic tips on some other machines).

It has cooling blocks for your samples. This is more important than you
think.

It's fast.

It is easily integrated into a fully automated lab system. Right now,
though, our humans (including me) are cheaper than rails and robots.

It's incredibly accurate, even with 30% PEG 4000 (we tested this
ourselves). 

You can use it for other low volume dispensing applications.


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Lisa Nagy
University of Alabama-Birmingham
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