Dale,

I have had a similar problem with two of my entries. However, if I take the TLS information from the PDB header and put it in a "in_tls.tls" file that I feed into REFMAC (0 cycles, just structure factor computation), I can reproduce the R-factors within 0.1% or less. It is just the order of the numbers that matters but this is described in the REFMAC documentation.

Cheers,

Ulrich

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:20:58 +0100, Dale Tronrud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

    I am looking over a number of models from the PDB but have been
unable to reproduce the R-factors for any model that was refined
with Refmac and contains TLS parameters.  I usually can't get within
5% of the reported value.  On the other hand, I usually do pretty
well for models w/o TLS.

    An example is the model 1nkz.  The PDB header gives an R value
of 17% but even when I use tlsanal in CCP4i to generate a PDB with
anisotropic B's that mimic the TLS parameters I get an R value of
22.4% using SFCheck.  (I'm not implying that I suspect any problem
with 1nkz, in fact I have every reason to believe this is the great
model its published stats indicate.)

    I've found a CCP4 BB letter that stated that SFCheck does not
pay attention to anisotropic B's but that letter was dated 2002.
I hope this limitation has been removed, or at least the output
would mention this limitation.

    Setting up a refinement in Refmac involves a large overhead,
since even for zero cycles of refinement the program insists on
a complete stereochemical definition for the strange and wondrous
groups in this model.  I would just like to verify the R factor
and calculate a proper map for inspection in Coot.  Since I have
many models I would like to look at, I would like a simple procedure.

    I did set up a Refmac run for another model, for which I do
have all the .cif's required, but even after refinement I was not
close to the reported R.

    I see that the models I'm interested in are not present in the
Electron Density Server, so I suspect I'm not alone in fighting
this battle.

Any advice would be appreciated,
Dale Tronrud



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