Roberto,

An also less than optimal work around might be to take your refined
.pdb from PHENIX or CCP4 and run it through the downgrade utility on
MolProbity to change to PDBv2.3 format before working in Coot.  I
don't think it is necessary to convert back to PDBv3.0 for
phenix.refine, but MolProbity will do this automatically if you upload
a PDBv2.3 file.

The workhorse of the conversion is a program called the Remediator,
which is available for download here:

http://kinemage.biochem.duke.edu/software/remediator.php

It certainly is a pain to have to be switching back and forth, but
this should allow you to keep your refined hydrogen positions.

Good Luck,
-bob

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Roberto Steiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all,
> a problem possibly at the coot/mmdb interface...
> If one uploads a pdb file (from phenix.refine in the example below) that
> contains Hs into Coot and then writes it out (with or without any
> modification done on it)  Coot shifts the HG2n of THR on the right by one
> column space. Because column 17 is kept empty
> the result is three identical HG2 THR protons.
> Example:
> Uploaded:
> CRYST1   45.460  166.970  167.200  90.00  90.00  90.00 P 21 21 21
> SCALE1      0.021997 -0.000000 -0.000000        0.00000
> SCALE2      0.000000  0.005989  0.000000        0.00000
> SCALE3      0.000000  0.000000  0.005981        0.00000
> ATOM      1  N   THR A   2      27.439  61.155  24.800  1.00 70.37      A
>  N
> ANISOU    1  N   THR A   2     9721   7539   9478   1186   2103    297  A
>  N
> ATOM      2  CA  THR A   2      26.489  62.215  24.456  1.00 77.21      A
>  C
> ANISOU    2  CA  THR A   2    10790   8621   9925   1145   1971    285  A
>  C
> ATOM      3  CB  THR A   2      26.960  63.618  24.975  1.00 73.93      A
>  C
> ANISOU    3  CB  THR A   2    10519   8251   9322   1244   1638    409  A
>  C
> ATOM      4  OG1 THR A   2      28.259  63.512  25.579  1.00 73.16      A
>  O
> ANISOU    4  OG1 THR A   2    10309   7971   9516   1332   1549    489  A
>  O
> ATOM      5  CG2 THR A   2      25.969  64.197  25.999  1.00 64.65      A
>  C
> ANISOU    5  CG2 THR A   2     9547   7174   7845   1451   1403    582  A
>  C
> ATOM      6  C   THR A   2      26.200  62.288  22.934  1.00 71.92      A
>  C
> ANISOU    6  C   THR A   2    10101   8073   9151    869   2179     63  A
>  C
> ATOM      7  O   THR A   2      25.172  61.797  22.455  1.00 64.74      A
>  O
> ANISOU    7  O   THR A   2     9210   7258   8131    790   2339    -23  A
>  O
> ATOM      8  HA  THR A   2      25.639  62.015  24.900  1.00 71.84      A
>  H
> ATOM      9  HB  THR A   2      27.009  64.232  24.226  1.00 69.26      A
>  H
> ATOM     10  HG1 THR A   2      28.232  62.991  26.212  1.00 67.50      A
>  H
> ATOM     11 HG21 THR A   2      26.275  65.055  26.303  1.00 61.19      A
>  H
> ATOM     12 HG22 THR A   2      25.104  64.300  25.596  1.00 61.19      A
>  H
> ATOM     13 HG23 THR A   2      25.894  63.607  26.753  1.00 61.19      A
>  H
>
> Written:
> CRYST1   45.460  166.970  167.200  90.00  90.00  90.00 P 21 21 21
> SCALE1      0.021997 -0.000000 -0.000000        0.00000
> SCALE2      0.000000  0.005989  0.000000        0.00000
> SCALE3      0.000000  0.000000  0.005981        0.00000
> ATOM      1  N   THR A   2      27.439  61.155  24.800  1.00 70.37      A
>  N
> ANISOU    1  N   THR A   2     9721   7539   9478   1186   2103    297  A
>  N
> ATOM      2  CA  THR A   2      26.489  62.215  24.456  1.00 77.21      A
>  C
> ANISOU    2  CA  THR A   2    10790   8621   9925   1145   1971    285  A
>  C
> ATOM      3  CB  THR A   2      26.960  63.618  24.975  1.00 73.93      A
>  C
> ANISOU    3  CB  THR A   2    10519   8251   9322   1244   1638    409  A
>  C
> ATOM      4  OG1 THR A   2      28.259  63.512  25.579  1.00 73.16      A
>  O
> ANISOU    4  OG1 THR A   2    10309   7971   9516   1332   1549    489  A
>  O
> ATOM      5  CG2 THR A   2      25.969  64.197  25.999  1.00 64.65      A
>  C
> ANISOU    5  CG2 THR A   2     9547   7174   7845   1451   1403    582  A
>  C
> ATOM      6  C   THR A   2      26.200  62.288  22.934  1.00 71.92      A
>  C
> ANISOU    6  C   THR A   2    10101   8073   9151    869   2179     63  A
>  C
> ATOM      7  O   THR A   2      25.172  61.797  22.455  1.00 64.74      A
>  O
> ANISOU    7  O   THR A   2     9210   7258   8131    790   2339    -23  A
>  O
> ATOM      8  HA  THR A   2      25.639  62.015  24.900  1.00 71.84      A
>  H
> ATOM      9  HB  THR A   2      27.009  64.232  24.226  1.00 69.26      A
>  H
> ATOM     10  HG1 THR A   2      28.232  62.991  26.212  1.00 67.50      A
>  H
> ATOM     11  HG2 THR A   2      26.275  65.055  26.303  1.00 61.19      A
>  H
> ATOM     12  HG2 THR A   2      25.104  64.300  25.596  1.00 61.19      A
>  H
> ATOM     13  HG2 THR A   2      25.894  63.607  26.753  1.00 61.19      A
>  H
> Does anyone know (Paul?) the reason for the above?
> The only solution right now (that I know of) is to remove all Hs and
> generate them again (molprobity for example) prior to refinement.
> Cheers,
> Roberto
> ---
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