If your protein precipitates at low ionic strength you may want to establish what concentration of salt does it tolerate (by slowly diluting a fraction of your pool with water just until you see precipitation) then try to adjust your cation exchange conditions so that you load with enough salt to keep the protein happy, then elute with higher salt concentration. You may want to adjust the pH of your buffer to be lower - usually this helps keep things in solution with basic proteins such as yours. In general you don't *have* to dialyze prior to ion exchange - dilution works just as well.
Imidazole and histidine are pretty much the same in terms of protein behavior, at least in my experience. Both of them can cause 'apparent' protein degradation - if you take a sample of your protein with histidine or imidazole still in it, then boil it with the gel loading buffer you can get fake proteolysis (i.e. only in the boiled sample). It does not happen with every protein, but it does happen (some weird chemistry involving the imidazole ring at high temp. no doubt). Artem _____ From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debajyoti Dutta Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation Hi again, Thank you for all you have replied. I suspect the sonnication for such a bad result. I am just wondering if I can use Histidine instead of Imidazole and then buffer exchange to go for Cation exchanger. Does Imidazole had any bad effect in protein. I have experienced that the protein cannot sustain low salt and get ppt during dialysis. Sincerely Debajyoti Dutta On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 Artem Evdokimov wrote : >Hi, > > > >If you are plagued by 'generic' proteolysis, it is not likely that changing >buffers from TRIS to phosphate will help reduce the breakdown. You may want >to ask yourself several key questions regarding the breakdown: > > > >1. is it proteolysis or abortive translation? >2. is it happening during expression or post-lysis? >3. is it exoproteolysis or endo- (or both)? Which terminus is more >affected? > > > >If you have abortive translation or alternate transcription/translation >starts, you should examine the DNA/RNA sequence of your gene closely - >sometimes you can tell (e.g. beginning of the gene is peppered with >methionines and S-D sequences) > > > >If you have proteolysis during expression, it sometimes can be alleviated or >even eliminated by changing expression conditions (temperature and richness >of media seem to be key - this summer we had exactly this kind of a >situation where expression at 37C for 4 hours gave more total protein than >expression at 20C overnight, however the 37C protein was significantly >'busted up' whereas the 20C was essentially intact). > > > >If you have proteolysis during cell lysis you may be able to reduce its >extent by means of at least the following (not a complete list by any >means!): > > > >a) lyse and process the cells on ice or even in liquid nitrogen (see >some previous posts regarding mortar-and-pestle LN2 lysis). Avoid sonication >or other forms of mechanical lysis in-liquid as they all generate heat >(detergent lysis or French press may be safe alternatives) > >b) make an effort to lyse the cells and complete primary extraction as >fast as possible (for example, in an extreme case you can forego the lysate >clarification step - high-flow IMAC resins can tolerate complete crude >lysate in batch mode or sometimes even on a column). > >c) use protease inhibitors (can be somewhat expensive) > > > >If you can figure out which end of the protein is affected (or perhaps its >lysis of an interdomain linker, exposed loop, etc.) you may be able to >re-design the construct to avoid this. Presumably the fact that your protein >can be extracted via the His6 tag means that the end with the tag is intact >(or at least enough of it is intact to make purification possible). >Therefore it may be interesting to switch the tag to the other end - you may >get lucky. > > > >If you cannot afford the (expensive) commercial protease inhibitor >cocktails, you may be able to get away with using the 'old basics' such as >benzamidine, PMSF (AEBSF), and EDTA/EGTA or phenantroline. Yes, you won't be >able to use IMAC together with EDTA - but you can always do cation exchange >first (protein with pI of 10!!!) in EDTA, then polish it up with IMAC etc. >If your protein is really pI 10, it should bind to CM-sepharose in buffer >with pH as high as 8, which is essentially a guarrantee that your protein >will be almost alone in the extracted material - you wil likely see a >ribosomal p10 protein that's about pI 11 - and that's it. Remember that if >you go this way, you should avoid using lysozyme for cell lysis since HEWL >is mighty basic itself. > > > >Good luck, > > >Artem > > > > _____ > > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Debajyoti Dutta >Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:16 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ccp4bb] protein degradation > > > > >Hi, > >This is going to be an off topic question concerning this community. I have >a protein 6XHis tagged. When retrieved from the Ni-NTA column with imidazole >found to be degraded, appears like a deep band with other bands (touching >each other below the main band) in SDS PAGE. The protein is a DNA binding >(pI~ 10) and Tris-Hcl buffer is used with 10% glycerol and 300mM NaCl. for >purification. Does Phosphate buffer do any help in stopping the degradation. > >All suggestions are welcome. 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