I agree with the accolades given by Raji to the CCPBB, but suggest a 
difference: it is not given by "Nature," or any other polytheistic entity but 
rather by the patience and sustained efforts of all the souls who resist the 
urge to excoriate, which I would guess scales linearly to the number of years 
on the BB.

Thanks to all of you who help out for little to no reward,

Jacob

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Raji Edayathumangalam 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli


  Did you not know that the CCP4BB-- even when all else appears to be melting 
down-- is Nature's sustained gift to humankind? Did you also not know that 
astronauts, astronomers, astrologers, artists, musicians, sportsmen, 
scientists, politicians, writers and everyone else subscribes to the board....


  Given the breadth of knowledge of the CCP4BBers, molecular biology is still 
down the CCP4BBer's alley! Doesn't shock me that some molecular biologists 
responded :)


  The questions usually boils down to: To respond or not to respond?


  Cheers,
  Raji












  On Feb 25, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Mo Wong wrote:


    Thanks to all who responded. Actually, this bulletin board is better for 
help with molecular biology than the molecular biology bulletin board I am 
subscribed to!


    On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Stephen Weeks <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      Mo,
        Just to add my 50 cents, I didn't see any mention of the use of fusion 
proteins in your original post. GST, MBP or my personal, and completely biased, 
favourite SUMO (plus many more proteins) have been shown to enhance expression 
when fused to the amino terminus of a target protein. If you fear you have 
toxicity, simply tracking the OD600 pre and post induction normally tell you if 
this is happening. I've worked with proteins that basically baselined the cell 
growth upon induction and, as Artem stated, at least I knew my protein was 
being made albeit at very low levels.

      Stephen

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      Mo Wong wrote:

        I thought I'd post this to the CCP4bb, as judging by previous posts, it 
seems I could get some useful insight into my problem...

        This is question has probably been asked by people for a long as 
molecular biology has been around, but hopefully my question isn't a complete 
rehash of other peoples: I am trying to express a human protein in bacteria 
where the only modified amino acids are 3 phosphorylated serines. I’ve gone 
through the usual hoopla of trying to get it expressed in E. coli 
(Rosetta/Codon+ cells, varying IPTG, low temperature, etc). Sequencing confirms 
my insert is correct, but from coomassie gel inspection, I appear to get near 
zero induction (I need to do a Western to get a clearer assessment). I’ve heard 
about custom gene synthesis, and it appears Mr. Gene (https://www.mrgene.com/) 
would be a good avenue to look into as they optimize the ORF taking into 
account codon usage in E. coli (though I’m not sure they examine putative mRNA 
substructure formation like some companies do). It’s only 49c per base pair, so 
doesn’t seem too cost prohibitive. My only concern is that if this protein is 
toxic, I could be wasting money.

        So I was wondering, has anyone seen the expression for a particular 
protein change from zero in Rosetta/Codon+ cells using "native" sequeneces to 
being largely overexpressed in BL21(DE3) cells using codon optimized sequences? 
For folks who have had a similar problem to the one I've described, would you 
recommend that I first try using a codon optimized sequence in E. coli over 
testing protein expression in yeast/insect cells, or the other way round?

        Thanks!




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