Hi Bernhard,

In phenix.refine, the chiral volume is computed from the ideal bond lengths and 
angles,
using the unit cell trick pointed out already by George:

  uc = uctbx.unit_cell(  [bond.value_dist for bond in bonds]
                       + [angle.value_angle for angle in angles])
  if (volume_sign.startswith("neg")):
    return -uc.volume()
  return uc.volume()

The esd isn't defined in the monomer library files. In phenix.refine it is 
defined by
this parameter:

chir_volume_esd = 0.2


I believe this is the same value as used in refmac.

Ralf


----- Original Message ----
From: Bernhard Rupp <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 9:21:03 PM
Subject: [ccp4bb] chiral volume target value

Dear All,

assuming the chiral volume definition with r() a Cartesian position vector 

Vc = [r(N)-r(Ca)]*([r(C)-r(Ca)]x[r(Cb)-r(Ca)]) 

I always get about -0.65 A**3

Is this correct? Are there any target values?

In a SHELX manual I read + 2.5 for the chiral volume - seems to
be different.

(not to be confused with the pseudo-torsion target of +34 deg)

Thx, BR

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