I think the definition of a "coiled coil" is that the helices are symmetric (Crick 1953). That is, every coiled coil is a helical bundle, but not every helical bundle is a coiled coil. It is a matter of semantics as to HOW MUCH a coiled coil can deviate from perfect internal symmetry before it can no longer be called a "coiled coil", and as is usually the case the people who study them tend to have tighter restrictions than those who do not.

A few crystallographically symmetric CCs have been mentioned already, and couple of the designed coiled coils are also in this category: 1rh4, 2o6n, and were it not for a slight tilt in the superhelical axis relative to the c axis 1tgg would probably have been crystallographically symmetric. We actually had a little trouble figuring out if the 3-fold in 1tgg was a rotation axis with a pseudo-screw or a screw axis with a pseudo rotation. The latter turned out to be the case, and I think this structure is an instructive example of how NCS can approach CS in a continuous way.

The standard way to evaluate the "internal symmetry" of a coiled coil is to evaluate the Crick parameters of it (Crick, 1953). I think there are several programs out there now such as TWISTER that can do this fit. If you can't find one, I wrote a little jiffy for generating idealized coiled coils, given the Crick parameters here:
http://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/pickup/supertwist.awk

Should be a simple matter to generate a series of idealized coiled coils and lsqkab them to a model of interest to find the Crick parameters that give the lowest rmsd. Then it is up to you to decide if the rmsd is low enough to call the molecule "symmetric".

-James Holton
MAD Scientist

Xie Jiabao wrote:
Dear all,

Is anyone aware of a structure where the individual alpha helical chains of a coiled coil are related by a crystallographic axis? Or does anyone know of a coiled coil structure (dimer or higher order oligomer) that is perfectly symmetric at least in terms of the protein backbone or alpha carbon atoms?

Thanks and best regards,
Xie


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