Brad,
It looks like the chelator is a reducing agent added to media for preservation, I guess. The "cure" is not found yet. I'm just loading ~300 ml per one 5 ml column and it so far serves me well. The IEX approach did not work well. I've lost more than with IMAC after 3X dilution (with properly chosen resin and buffer pH). Your idea works fine: that's why I limit load to 300 ml. Thank you. _______ Vaheh ________________________________ From: Brad Bennett [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:43 PM To: Oganesyan, Vaheh Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] mammalian cell culture on IMAC Hi Vaheh- Well (gulp) you could dilute your solution say 2-10X with buffer with no salt. You could try small volumes at first and see how dilute the [salt] must be before your protein sticks to your IEX column. So, what is in the media that is stripping off the Ni ions? A chelator like EDTA? And you're sure it's not something more sinister like stripping AND reducing the Ni? If the media formulation is proprietary, you may never definitively know. But I wonder if you could add free resin to a small portion of your solution, spin it down and run the beads on a gel and detect your protein by silver stain or immunoblot? If, whatever it is, is just stripping your resin, then maybe you could "pull down" some of your target protein. Surely some Ni+ will get chelated but maybe it's worth a shot? Maybe as long as you have plenty of Ni-NTA, Ni-Sepharose or Talon hanging around, you could give this a try. You could try salting it out with saturating ammonium sulfate. Not elegant but it should work and you could resuspend the pellet in whatever buffer and volume you wanted. Any other epitopes/affinity handles on this protein? Like Flag or HA? HTH- Brad On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Oganesyan, Vaheh <[email protected]> wrote: In case of cell lysates this may be a good idea since you can adjust the salt concentration in your sample. In case of secreted proteins it is probably not so good since the media contains ~150 mM NaCl. In my case this salt prevents protein from bindinq to Q column. Thank you anyway. ________________________________ From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Dima Klenchin Sent: Thu 10/8/2009 3:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] mammalian cell culture on IMAC > >When mammalian cell culture is being loaded to GE HisTrap resin Ni ions >are being stripped off the resin, at least in my hands. Did any of you >have similar experience and if so what kind of work-around was found? >Volume is fairly large (3L) and concentration/dialysis have proven to >cause loss of desired protein. >Please share your positive experience. I get this with insect cell lysates. The solution: load onto ion exchanger first - not for purification but to get rid of whatever strips Ni2+. Crude wash with 50 mM salt (or as high as your protein allows) followed by step elution with 0.5M salt (very few proteins do not elute at 0.5M) --> load directly onto Ni-NTA. Solves the stripping problem 100%. (If you use step elution, make sure to NOT use weak exchangers or you will have pH shift of 2-3 units). If the protein binds to cation-exchangers at pH >7, even such a crude step results in significant purification in itself. If, for some reason, ion exchangers are not an option, load onto hydroxyapatite and elute with phosphate. The downside to HA is that it has a lot less capacity than ion-exchangers and that it needs frequent repacking. Good luck, Dima To the extent this electronic communication or any of its attachments contain information that is not in the public domain, such information is considered by MedImmune to be confidential and proprietary. This communication is expected to be read and/or used only by the individual(s) for whom it is intended. If you have received this electronic communication in error, please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission and delete the original message and any accompanying documents from your system immediately, without copying, reviewing or otherwise using them for any purpose. Thank you for your cooperation. To the extent this electronic communication or any of its attachments contain information that is not in the public domain, such information is considered by MedImmune to be confidential and proprietary. This communication is expected to be read and/or used only by the individual(s) for whom it is intended. If you have received this electronic communication in error, please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission and delete the original message and any accompanying documents from your system immediately, without copying, reviewing or otherwise using them for any purpose. Thank you for your cooperation.
