Hi All,

Many thanks for your reply.

I am quite sure that my crystals are the complex. I made the complex by 1:1.1 
ratio with the small component excess, then did the methylation, followed by 
gel filtration to remove the small reductant. The SDS-PAGEs for gel filtration 
fractions and crystals showed two bands.Both indice from XDS and mosflm gave 
P222 with cell of a=30.13, b=47.38, c=119.6 and apha=beta=gama=90 degree. 
Mathews calculation gave 42.37% solvent content with molecular weight of 20 kDa 
(the complex).The space group was also checked by pointless that gave P222 as 
well. However, phaser gave P22121, RFZ=3.7, TFZ=4.8, park=4, LLG=26, LLG=24.

Thanks

peter

Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:37:01 -0500
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Methylation of macromolecular complexes
To: [email protected]


 There is a reasonable experiment you can do: 



Take the unit cell of your (presumed) crystal complex and put the search model 
into the until cell in a way that seems reasonable (use coot, or your favorite 
program). Make structure factors (with CCP4 or your favorite program) and throw 
away the phases. Then rotate your MR search model randomly and put the search 
model and structure factors into the MR program. See if it finds a solution. 
You can repeat it with structure factor data to which noise has been added. You 
can use this method to optimize your MR search parameters.



Don't be surprised if you cannot find a MR solution at all (even if you know 
for sure it should exist in your artificial problem).



Once upon a time I tried to solve the structure of a small poly-peptide and 
with the method above I proved to myself that it was not possible to find a 
solution (with the programs that were available at that time, when Dinosaurs 
still roamed the Earth). I found that MR is very finicky when applied to small 
peptides. At least you will be able to determine what the optimal parameters 
are (resolution, search radius) and whether it can succeed at all. 



To pursue Se-Met is smart. Small peptide crystals resist heavy atom soaking. If 
your resolution is high enough, you can also try direct methods. On such a 
small peptide that should be easy (provided your crystals are well-behaved). 
Frequently the diffraction resolution of small peptide crystals is high enough 
that direct methods work very well.



Mark



 



 



-----Original Message-----

From: Sean Seaver <[email protected]>

To: [email protected]

Sent: Tue, Nov 24, 2009 5:13 pm

Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Methylation of macromolecular complexes











>I have a small complex, one component is 13 kDa with structure available

and the other is 7 kDa, which could not be able to grew crystals after lots

of efforts. It grew crystals after methylation and diffracted to 2.3 A,

however, I could not be able to solve the structure using the structure of

the big component as a template for molecular replacement, and heavy atoms

soaking was not successful. I plan to do selenomethionine expression next.

Does the methylation change protein structures a lot? otherwise, why does

molecular replacement not work?  I would much appreciate any idea and

suggestions how to solve the structure using the data and the template

avaliable.



---

A couple of questions that I would consider in regards to the molecular

replacement not working:



Is the binding between the proteins 1:1?  

Does the Matthews coefficient reflect this?



MR maybe difficult if you have a number of 7 kDa proteins binding to a 13

kDa protein.



Hope that Helps,



Sean



 


                                          
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