I agree this 3:1, 4:1, ... 10:1 etc is a good approach - especially for 
screening - as it samples more concentration conditions than the plain vanilla 
1:1 set-up. One generally good thing too is that the precipitant also starts at 
lower concentration - so less chance of setting up a load of trials and 
watching them immediately crash out (although obviously not a problem in this 
particular case!) .

I think the reason for differences from pre-prepared concentrated protein are 
often to do with other components that come in with the protein - so anything 
in the protein solution like buffer, salt, reductant, detergent, metal ions, 
etc will be concentrated up alongside the protein. 

cheers
    Martyn 

Martyn Symmons, MBU Cambridge.

As an aside I heard that the 1:1 derives from the days when pipettes could not 
be trusted with such small volumes. The 1:1 ratio is the best chance to get a 
droplet with reproducible relative concentrations regardless of any systematic 
error in the exact volumes dispensed.

 






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From: Jacob Keller <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 5 March, 2010 17:02:15
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] crystallization of a macromolecular complex

 

 
20 g/L is the same as 20 mg/ml, isn't it?  That does 
>  not seem particularly high to me.
> 
>Why not try 200 g/L?
> 
As a variant to 
this, you could just try doing 10:1 prot:ppt drops, and allowing the protein 
concentration to increase in situ. In my limited experience, however, this is 
not the same as setting up drops 1:1 with more concentrated protein, for 
reasons 
unknown to me. I wonder whether that is the experience of others on the BB as 
well?
 
JPK

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