unambiguous space group ?

Jürgen

On May 23, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Paul Lindblom wrote:

> Thank you all for your quick answers. I already tried the phyre server but 
> could not find a appropriate model. Balbes found a structure with 29% 
> identity, but no solution. Now I am running molrep with the model balbes 
> found...
> 
> 2010/5/23 Nathaniel Echols <[email protected]>
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:57 PM, David Briggs <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> I like to generate some models using the "Phyre" server
> 
> ( http://www.sbg.bio.ic.ac.uk/~phyre/ )
> 
> Feed the best .pdbs into Mr Bump.
> 
> Go and get coffee. Come back and find a solution with post-refmac
> R/Rfree in the mid-30s.
> 
> IMHO, Phyre models are often pretty good, and Phyre is worth running
> on any sequence you are messing with - the output is nice and
> informative.
> 
> My experience has been exactly the opposite; I've seen many people waste a 
> lot of time this way.  Phyre is a fold-recognition server - it is not 
> intended to generate optimal, physically accurate models.  It's possible that 
> they've improved the output since I last used it, but I've seen plenty of 
> models with overlapping sidechains and completely unrealistic packing.  Use 
> Modeller or Rosetta (both also available as web servers) if you want as 
> accurate a homology model as possible.  Even so, if you can find homologs in 
> the PDB with better than 30% sequence identity, you'll probably have at least 
> as much success using those as search models, after judicious pruning (which 
> I think MrBUMP can do automatically).
> 
> This is not to say that homology modelling isn't occasionally useful for MR, 
> but it is not the first thing I'd try unless I had put a great deal of 
> thought into the pipeline and had a large cluster to run it on.  I know the 
> JCSG has had some luck with this approach, but they have full-time 
> programmers and something like 400 CPUs.
> 
> -Nat
> 

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Jürgen Bosch
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