Seeding! Make seeds, rescreen with seeds. Look in many former ccp4bb posts for 
references about this.
Jacob


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jürgen Bosch 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Help with Optimizing Crystals


  You did check on a gel that they are indeed your protein ?


  If you have sufficient amounts available try digesting it with various 
proteases and see if you can identify a stable fragment.


  A less radical approach, which might not be accessible to you, you could 
screen your protein for alternative buffer conditions using DSF and then pick a 
condition under which it seems to be very stable according to its melting 
temperature in the buffer.


  You've spared us the details of your purification procedure, maybe a 
polishing step at the end with a SEC might do wonders.


  Jürgen


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  On Oct 26, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matthew Bratkowski wrote:


    Hello.

    I have obtained disk shaped crystals of a protein that I am working on.  I 
got hits in about 10 different conditions, with a few common precipitants and 
pHs, and I have optimized two conditions so far.  In the optimized conditions, 
the crystals appear overnight, usually surrounded by or hiding under heavy 
precipitant. Under the best conditions, I get what I would describe as single 
disks, some of which are of decent size and very round, that rotate light very 
well.  Sub-optimal conditions can give small to large crystal clusters.  I shot 
the large disk crystals grown from one conditions at the synchrotron. but they 
do not diffract.

    I was wondering if anyone had any advice about optimizing these crystals in 
order to get them to diffract better?  As mentioned before, I have only tried 
optimizing a few of the hit conditions (varying precipitant conc., pH, etc.), 
but crystals from all of the hits look the same: always round disks or disk 
clusters.  This leads me to believe that optimized conditions of the other hits 
will produce similar results as before.  Would it be worthwhile to try 
optimizing these conditions as well?  I have also tried seeding, which just 
produces a lot of clusters, and an additive screen.  Some of the additives help 
to produce larger crystals, but again I always get single or disk clusters.

    Any advice would be helpful.

    Thanks,
    Matt

       






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