I strongly agree with Eric Larson’s suggestion on trying to see the diffraction 
of your crystal. The most straightforward solution. Other suggestions may work 
too, but there are chances they will still give you false positives.

If you need bigger crystals, try to slow down the nucleation (use lower 
temperature, different ratio of protein:crystallant, etc).

Clement

From: yybbll 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:42 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [ccp4bb] how to optimize small rod-shaped crystals

Hi, everybody,

I try to crystallize one membrane protein. All crystals were grown by 
handing-drop vapor diffusion at 20 degree. A protein solution containing about 
8-10mg/ml protein in 20mM Tris (pH7.5), 0.017% DDM, 100mM NaCl, 10% glycerol, 
2mM DDT was mixed with an equal volume of a reservoir solution containing 45% 
PEG200, 0.1 M phosphate/citrate (pH4.2). First crystal appeared in the drop 
within 4 days. And one week a lot of crystals appeared in the drops.

Our question is all of these crystals are too small to check them by X-ray 
diffraction and SDS-PAGE. We are not sure they are protein crystals or salt 
crystals. Our condition seems difficult to produce salt crystal. But I am a 
little warry because we use reloaded our sample to small Ni-resin column to 
reduce the concentration of detergent. Maybe some nickel ion dropped off, and 
then our protein sample contained some this ion. And nickel ion may react with 
phosphate, and then produced nickel phosphate crystal. Could somebody tell me 
if it is possible? 

I attach some photos of our crystals. Could somebody give me some suggestions 
about how to optimize this type crystal to get bigger crystal?

Thanks a lot!

Yibin

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