DTT.cif in $CLIBD_MON has explicit chiralities, assuming these are right

 DTT      chir_01  C2     C1     O2     C3        positiv
 DTT      chir_02  C3     C2     O3     C4        negativ

On 25 Nov 2010, at 17:11, Paul Emsley wrote:

> Credit where it's due, Coot's "Get Monomer" is just a wrapper for LIBCHECK.
> 
> If you look at the restraints for DTT after Get Monomer, you will notice that 
> chiral centres are both marked as "both".  Using the restraints editor (or 
> otherwise) change them to "positive" (C2) and "negative" (C3) and everything 
> will be fine (you may need to flip the H2 and H3 hydrogens if you have them).
> 
> If you wanted to use something other than LIBCHECK, you could search the 
> SBase monomers and prodrgify the result (search using the substring 
> "dithiobutane" (and "mercaptobutane" for DTU) incidentally).
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 25/11/10 16:38, Linda Schuldt wrote:
>> Hi Emmanuel,
>> 
>> it is hard for me to imagine that Coot has the wrong stereoisomer. So what
>> I think might have happend is the following:
>> You have imported the correct DTT, but when you have fitted the molecule
>> into the map you might have distorted the sterochemistry at the C3 atom.
>> And then it was refined like that. I had once a similar observation with
>> MPD. Did you insert the three DTT molecules individually, or did you "copy
>> and paste" the same molecule around (which might explain why you have it
>> for all three)?
>> And why don´t you just import DTT into Coot and check yourself if it has
>> the correct sterochemistry. This is a fast and easy way to find out if
>> something is wrong in your Coot library.
>> Unless you have very high resolution which clearly shows that you have DTU
>> instead of DTT, I would change your coordinate file to DTT and send it
>> again to the pdb.
>> 
>> Hope this helps you.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Linda
>> 
>> 
>> Emmanuel Saridakis schrieb:
>>   
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> Possibly a trivial question but your experience would be much appreciated:
>>> 
>>> I recently submitted a structure to PDB containing 3 DTT (dithiothreitol)
>>> molecules, or so I thought. The molecules had been imported and fitted
>>> with Coot using the Get Monomer... instruction with the code DTT. The
>>> Annotator responded, quite rightly as it turns out, as follows:
>>> 
>>> Please note DTT in your coordinates has been changed to DTU since it
>>>     
>>>>> has incorrect stereochemistry as DTT.
>>>>> Please review the stereochemistory in the attached validation report
>>>>> summary.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can send me corrected stereochemistry for DTT if you want it
>>>>> changed back.
>>>>> 
>>>>> DTU (2R,3S)-1,4-disulfanylbutane-2,3-diol
>>>>> C4 H10 O2 S2
>>>>> 
>>>>> DTT (2R,3R)-1,4-disulfanylbutane-2,3-diol
>>>>> C4 H10 O2 S2
>>>>>         
>>> So, is the "DTT" monomer of Coot in fact its stereoisomer known as
>>> dithioerythritol? Should I import the correct DTT from elsewhere and
>>> re-refine or is there something else behind this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot for any suggestions!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Emmanuel
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     

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