Hi

I think the phi rotation on that beamline is the opposite way round to most 
other Q315s - so in Mosflm you'd need to have a "DETECTOR REVERSEPHI" line (or 
click the "reverse direction of spindle rotation" box in iMosflm). I don't know 
what you'd do in XDS, but I don't think there is anything in the header (apart 
from the detector serial number) that would give a clue about it. You just need 
to know about the individual detector.

There's no reason why images from a Q315r should be less easy to process than 
those from a Q315 in XDS or Mosflm. I'd stick with Mosflm, personally, but 
you'd expect me to say that. 

On 8 Dec 2010, at 14:53, wu donghui wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> Thank you very much for your valuable inputs. This is an update based from 
> the suggestions.
> 
> Following Pierre's suggestion, I installed xdsme 
> (http://code.google.com/p/xdsme/) and run it. xdsme extracts image header as 
> the below:
> 
>  Image format:      adsc
>  Detector type:     ADSC 315
>  Detector distance:               480.00 mm
>  X-ray wavelength:                1.1397 A
>  Oscillation range:               0.5000 degree
>   Beam coordinate X:               1535.3 pixel
>                             Y:               1535.3 pixel
> 
> As the detector type should be ADSC 315r, the indexing shows warning 
> information that  !!! WARNING in IDXREF. Solution is inaccurate.
> 
> Based on Miles's suggestion, I run the program adxv ( 
> http://www.scripps.edu/~arvai/adxv.html) to extract image header as the below:
> 
> Distance 480.000 mm
> Pixel Size 0.10259 mm
> Wavelength 1.13967 A
> Beam Center X: 1535 pixels
>                     Y: 1536 pixels
> OSC_RANGE 0.5000 degree
> 
> However the beam center pixel seems to indicate that ccd detector is Q315 but 
> not Q315r based on the provided template script from XDS website as below.
> 
> *****************************************************************************
> ! Example file XDS.INP for the ADSC Q105 CCD-detector 
> ! Characters in a line to the right of an exclamation mark are comment.
> !*****************************************************************************
> !NOTE: XDS can handle only "SMV" images of TYPE=unsigned_short.
> !      Images are expected to be already corrected for spatial distortions.
> !
> !Standard settings for the ADSC Q105 that rarely need to be changed
> 
>  DETECTOR=ADSC  MINIMUM_VALID_PIXEL_VALUE=1  OVERLOAD= 65000
>  DIRECTION_OF_DETECTOR_X-AXIS= 1.0 0.0 0.0
>  DIRECTION_OF_DETECTOR_Y-AXIS= 0.0 1.0 0.0
>  TRUSTED_REGION=0.0 1.05 !Relative radii limiting trusted detector region
> !UNTRUSTED_RECTANGLE= 570 1920  1469 2048  ! rectangle: X1 X2   Y1 Y2  
> !UNTRUSTED_ELLIPSE= 910 1110    1010 1210  ! ellipse enclosed by X1 X2 Y1 Y2
> !File name, access, format of dark-current (non-Xray background) image
> !DARK_CURRENT_IMAGE=../images/blank.tif    !hardly ever used
> 
> !MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_JOBS=4  !Speeds-up COLSPOT & INTEGRATE on a Linux-cluster
> !MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=4!<33;ignored by single cpu version of xds
> !MINUTE=0   !Maximum number of minutes to wait until data image must appears
> !TEST=1     !Test flag. 1,2 additional diagnostics and images
> 
> !NX=number of fast pixels (along X); QX=length of a X-pixel (mm)
> !NY=number of slow pixels (along Y); QY=length of a Y-pixel (mm)
> !For the ADSC, the number of detector pixels and their sizes are
> !obtained from the image header. It is therefore unnecessary to
> !specify values for NX, NY, QX, QY.
> !NX=2304 NY=2304 QX=0.0816 QY=0.0816   !ADSC Q4
> !NX=2048 NY=2048 QX=0.0500 QY=0.0500   !ADSC Q105
> !NX=2048 NY=2048 QX=0.1024 QY=0.1024   !ADSC Q210 at ESRF ID-29
> !NX=4096 NY=4096 QX=0.051  QY=0.051    !ADSC Q210r
> !NX=3072 NY=3072 QX=0.10259 QY=0.10259 !ADSC Q315 at SSRL 9-2
> !NX=6144 NY=6144 QX=0.0513 QY=0.0513   !ADSC Q315r at ESRF ID-29
> 
> 
> In summary, I can not index my data collected at Q315r Taiwan 13B1 beamline 
> using XDS program. It seems that XDS process data from Q315 is more efficient 
> that from Q315r.
> 
> Any suggestions will be much appreciated. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Donghui
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:03 AM, wu donghui <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Recently I collected several data sets at 13B1 Taiwan beamline with Q315r 
> detector. It's no problem to index these datasets using mosflm, but Rms 
> residual and weighted residual is high. Here I want to try XDS to play my 
> data. I downloaded a template example as below.
> 
> !*****************************************************************************
> ! Example file XDS.INP for the ADSC Q105 CCD-detector 
> ! Characters in a line to the right of an exclamation mark are comment.
> !*****************************************************************************
> !NOTE: XDS can handle only "SMV" images of TYPE=unsigned_short.
> !      Images are expected to be already corrected for spatial distortions.
> !
> !Standard settings for the ADSC Q105 that rarely need to be changed
> 
>  DETECTOR=ADSC  MINIMUM_VALID_PIXEL_VALUE=1  OVERLOAD= 65000
>  DIRECTION_OF_DETECTOR_X-AXIS= 1.0 0.0 0.0
>  DIRECTION_OF_DETECTOR_Y-AXIS= 0.0 1.0 0.0
>  TRUSTED_REGION=0.0 1.05 !Relative radii limiting trusted detector region
> !UNTRUSTED_RECTANGLE= 570 1920  1469 2048  ! rectangle: X1 X2   Y1 Y2  
> !UNTRUSTED_ELLIPSE= 910 1110    1010 1210  ! ellipse enclosed by X1 X2 Y1 Y2
> !File name, access, format of dark-current (non-Xray background) image
> !DARK_CURRENT_IMAGE=../images/blank.tif    !hardly ever used
> 
> !MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_JOBS=4  !Speeds-up COLSPOT & INTEGRATE on a Linux-cluster
> !MAXIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=4!<33;ignored by single cpu version of xds
> !MINUTE=0   !Maximum number of minutes to wait until data image must appears
> !TEST=1     !Test flag. 1,2 additional diagnostics and images
> 
> !NX=number of fast pixels (along X); QX=length of a X-pixel (mm)
> !NY=number of slow pixels (along Y); QY=length of a Y-pixel (mm)
> !For the ADSC, the number of detector pixels and their sizes are
> !obtained from the image header. It is therefore unnecessary to
> !specify values for NX, NY, QX, QY.
> !NX=2304 NY=2304 QX=0.0816 QY=0.0816   !ADSC Q4
> !NX=2048 NY=2048 QX=0.0500 QY=0.0500   !ADSC Q105
> !NX=2048 NY=2048 QX=0.1024 QY=0.1024   !ADSC Q210 at ESRF ID-29
> !NX=4096 NY=4096 QX=0.051  QY=0.051    !ADSC Q210r
> !NX=3072 NY=3072 QX=0.10259 QY=0.10259 !ADSC Q315 at SSRL 9-2
> !NX=6144 NY=6144 QX=0.0513 QY=0.0513   !ADSC Q315r at ESRF ID-29
> 
> !AIR=0.001 !Air absorption coefficient of x-rays is computed by XDS by default
> 
> !====================== JOB CONTROL PARAMETERS ===============================
> !JOB= XYCORR INIT COLSPOT IDXREF DEFPIX XPLAN INTEGRATE CORRECT
> 
> !====================== GEOMETRICAL PARAMETERS ===============================
> !ORGX and ORGY are often close to the image center, i.e. ORGX=NX/2, ORGY=NY/2
>  ORGX=3072.0  ORGY=3072   !Detector origin (pixels). ORGX=NX/2; ORGY=NY/2
>  DETECTOR_DISTANCE= 480  !(mm)
> 
>  ROTATION_AXIS= 1.0  0.0 0.0
>  OSCILLATION_RANGE=0.5            !degrees (>0)
> 
>  X-RAY_WAVELENGTH=1.14           !Angstroem
>  INCIDENT_BEAM_DIRECTION=0.0 0.0 1.0
>  FRACTION_OF_POLARIZATION=0.90 !default=0.5 for unpolarized beam
>  POLARIZATION_PLANE_NORMAL= 0.0 1.0 0.0
> 
> !======================= CRYSTAL PARAMETERS =================================
>  SPACE_GROUP_NUMBER=0  !0 for unknown crystals; cell constants are ignored.
>  UNIT_CELL_CONSTANTS= 139.53   249.90   119.83  90.000 112.511 90.000
> 
> ! You may specify here the x,y,z components for the unit cell vectors if
> ! known from a previous run using the same crystal in the same orientation
> !UNIT_CELL_A-AXIS=
> !UNIT_CELL_B-AXIS=
> !UNIT_CELL_C-AXIS=
> 
> !Optional reindexing transformation to apply on reflection indices
> !REIDX=   0  0 -1  0  0 -1  0  0 -1  0  0  0
> 
> !FRIEDEL'S_LAW=FALSE !Default is TRUE.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> However indexed cell parameter for a b and c is small and error information 
> indicates that cell solution is not accurate.  I suspect that I need to 
> change some input parameters besides selection of ORGX=3072.0  ORGY=3072 when 
> using XDS as the template is for ADSC Q105.
> 
> Here I want to know if anyone has experience to use XDS to process data 
> collected at Q315r and what error I made for using this script. 
> 
> Thank you very much for any suggestion.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Donghui
> 

Harry
--
Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, MRC Centre, Hills Road, 
Cambridge, CB2 0QH

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