I will offer my view.

I hate stereo glasses and hate stereo in general.  

One should be able to see 3D from the depth-cueing and by keeping the view
in motion.  For fitting, I like to flip the view by 90 degrees.  I know I am
going to move in displayX and displayY, but never in displayZ.  I then
rotate the view around the vertical axis so thatn the old displayZ becomes
displayX.

Furthermore, I don't waste too much time fitting.  I know the software can
fit the map better than me, so I let it do its job.  I only need to get the
coordinates within the radius of convergence of the refinement program.  I
also know that 9 times out of 10, the displayed electron density is probably
suspect, so I believe in stereochemistry more than I believe in the map.

The main trick is to realize that as a human being, you really are not that
good at fitting the map or that it is unnecessary to waste your time since
the software is really so much better than you.  Refinement is quick enough
that you can try various hypotheses as in:  "If I move this here, then
refinement will do the trick" and "Well, that didn't work, so I will move
that over there and see if refinement will do the trick."

As for stereo figures, you should be able to convey what you want to say
from a good figure with depth-cueing, shadows, etc.  Don't ever use stereo
glasses in a public seminar.  Maybe my opinion will change with better
stereo technology.

OK, I know quite a lot of people will disagree with me. :)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of David
Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 10:29 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] while on the subject of stereo

Hi again,

I'd like to ask a question about the pedagogy of stereo.  That is, using
stereo with students in the classroom.

Do you all find that, after setting up these elaborate stereo devices,
students really use the stereo or do they tend not to?

I am a huge fan of stereo - and frankly here we have quite a few options for
doing stereo - from the active Nvidia systems that people have recently been
discussing to passive zalmans. ...

As I mentioned, I like stereo a lot, but really projecting on a nice bright
lcd monitor also has it's advantages, and with the ease of moving things
using the mouse (or whatever device you use), the overall need for stereo
seems to be decreasing.  I don't know - I just wonder what peoples views are
out there for the actual "need" for stereo.  It's incredibly cool - and I
think is a very powerful way to show things - but I'm wondering if we focus
too much on it because it's cool and not because it's pedagogically
necessary.

Just wondering, no worries.  Thanks

Dave

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