For the second time today I have to apologize. In no way I wanted to discourage 
anyone and especially people new to crystallography from posting questions to 
this BB. Especially good thoughtful questions.

Sincerely,

Petr

On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Petr Leiman wrote:

> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I am not sure that sending links is the way to go. Our company blocks many 
>> websites that it considers not of professionel interest and were employees 
>> may spend too much time. 
> 
> What a brilliant idea! If only this could be implemented in academia. Our 
> Ph.D. students would stop asking stupid questions on this BB but instead read 
> books and journal articles. Yes, everything except PDB, sciencedirect, 
> webofscience, pubmed and arxiv (this one is for real science geeks) must be 
> blocked!
> 
> Petr
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark J 
>> van Raaij
>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:50 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] better way to post your density snapshots
>> 
>> posting these attachments as links rather than attachments in CCP4bb 
>> messages is the way to go I think.
>> many institutions offer this service (ours does), and there are also free 
>> and for-pay online ways to do this (for example www.yousendit.com, but there 
>> are many others).
>> Then it is also not a problem to send (sorry, link) even large files. The 
>> only disadvantage I can think of is that they expire after some time.
>> 
>> Mark J van Raaij
>> Laboratorio M-4
>> Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
>> Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
>> c/Darwin 3
>> E-28049 Madrid, Spain
>> tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
>> http://www.cnb.csic.es/content/research/macromolecular/mvraaij
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8 Dec 2011, at 16:39, Ed Pozharski wrote:
>> 
>>> Colleagues,
>>> 
>>> One recurring question on this bb is "I got this blob of density - is 
>>> it my ligand or what in the name of pink unicorns this is?"  Often, a 
>>> screen snapshot is posted, which is very helpful.  But it may be 
>>> better if those helping out could rotate density around in 3D.  
>>> Understandably, posting the full model/map is not the way to go.  
>>> However, I'd see no harm in posting just a small cutout of the map in 
>>> the region of interest.  It's not a difficult task (fft/mapmask or 
>>> perhaps some usf magic), but is there some user-friendly approach to 
>>> cutting out a small map volume?  One can use coot to mask the map and 
>>> then export it, but this seems to generate the ccp4-formatted map that 
>>> covers more than just the masked region, thus the files are fairly 
>>> large.  Does anyone know of a simple solution other than placing dummy 
>>> atoms in the region of interest and running fft/mapmask combination?  
>>> (Is there phenix.cut_the_map_around_this_weird_blob ? :)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Ed.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> "I'd jump in myself, if I weren't so good at whistling."
>>>                             Julian, King of Lemurs

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