Dear Naveed,

>From your description, I get the impression that indeed you have a partially 
>bound inhibitor.  

However, I do have some comments:
At 1.7 Å, you should refine a group-occupancy for your inhibitor.
With a partially bound inhibitor, the density in your active site will be a 
superposition of bound and unbound conformations and you should look if you 
could model both using alternative conformations and if that better explains 
the electron density maps.

The proof of the pudding is the electron density: Does the electron density of 
your inhibitor after refinement look convincing? 

Many inhibitors are in fact slow substrates and still get converted if you 
incubate them long enough with the enzyme. If the inhibitor is expected to 
react covalently with the protein and the covalent cofactor is not covalently 
bound any more to the protein, this looks to me like you have incubated too 
long. If you did not try already, I would really recommend shorter soaks (1 
hour, 1 day). Another thing to consider is to add fresh inhibitor as 
concentrated as possible prior to freezing. Especially if you do not add enough 
inhibitor to your cryprotectant solution, you may loose your inhibitor in 
seconds.

Best regards,
Herman


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Subject: [ccp4bb] Criteria for Ligand fitting

Dear Crystallographers,

We have obtained a 1.7 A dataset for a crystal harvested from crystallization 
drop after 2 weeks of soaking with inhibitor. The inhibitor has an aromatic 
ring and also an acidic tail derived from other known inhibitors. The active 
site hydrophobic crown  had been reported to re-orient and a charged residue is 
known to position for forming a salt-bridge with similar ligands. When compared 
to apo strucutres, we can clearly see the re-orientation of these protein 
residues. 

However, there are no clear density visible for the ligand in the Fo-Fc map. 
Some density is visible in the 2Fo-Fc map with default settings in COOT. We 
were expecting co-valent modifcations between the inhbitor, co-factor and 
protein residues. In fact, the Fo-Fc map suggested the protein residue is no 
longer bonded to the co-factor (red negative density) and a green positive 
density is observed nearby for the protein residue. These observations, along 
with the extended soaking and the pre-determined potency convince us that the 
inhibitor is present in the complex.

When I lower the threshold of the blue 2Fo-Fc map (0.0779 e/A^3; 0.2 rmsd) we 
can see the densities for the aromatic ring and the overall structural 
features. These densities were observed without the cofactor and the inhibtor 
in the initial MR search model. The R/Rfree for this dataset without inhibitor 
was 0.20/0.24 (overall Bfactor 17.4 A^2). At 50% occupancy, modeling the 
inhibtor showed no negative desities upon subsequent refinement. With the 
inhibtor, the R/Rfree was 0.18/0.22  (overall Bfactor 18.8 A^2). The temp 
factors of the inhibitor atoms (50% occ) were 15-26 A^2.

My understanding is phase from the MR search model may influence Fo-Fc maps, 
and the 2Fo-Fc map minimizes phase bias. Since the inhibitor was absent from 
the MR search model, can these observations be used to justify the fitting of 
the ligand in the map? Given the low map-level used to 'see' the ligand, would 
this be considered noise? Can I justfiy the subsequent fall in R/Rfree and the 
absence of negative density upon ligand fitting as proof of correct inhibtor 
modeling? I would appreciate if you could comment on this issue. Or tell me 
that I'm dying to see the inhibitor and hence imagining things!

Kind Regards,

Naveed Nadvi.

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