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Date: October 19, 2012 4:40:35 AM EDT
To: Randy Read <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] PNAS on fraud

This thread has been quite interesting to me. I've had a long interest in 
scientific fraud, which I've generally held to be victimless. While that view 
is unsupportable in a fundamental sense, I feel strongly that we should 
understand that error correction costs exponentially more, the smaller the 
tolerance for errors. In protein synthesis, evolution has settled on error 
rates of ~1 in 4000-10000. Ensuring those rates is already costly in terms of 
NTPs hydrolyzed. NASA peer review provided me another shock:  budgets for 
microgravity experiments were an order of magnitude higher than those for 
ground-based experiments, and most of the increase came via NASA's insistence 
on higher quality control.

Informally, I've concluded that the rate of scientific fraud in all journals is 
probably less than the 1 in 10,000 that (mother) nature settled on.

I concur with Randy.

Charlie

On Oct 18, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Randy Read wrote:

In support of Bayesian reasoning, it's good to see that the data could 
over-rule our prior belief that Nature/Science/Cell structures would be worse!


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