Dear Sebastiano,

This is not entirely straight-forward. The Oxford English dictionary gives the first definition of "freeze" relevant to this discussion as: "Of (a body of) water: be converted into or become covered with ice through loss of heat"

This is certainly not what we want to do to our crystals.

However, another definition in OED is:
"Cause (a liquid) to solidify by removal of heat", suggesting that this does not necessarily mean the formation of crystals.

The Larousse Dictionary of Science and Technology (1995) has the following definition: "Freeze-drying (Biol.) A method of fixing tissues sufficiently rapidly as to inhibit the formation of ice-crystals."

The Dictionary of Microbiology and Molecular Biology (3rd Ed) in the entry on "Freezing" has the sentence: "Rapid freezing tends to prevent the ice crystal formation by encouraging vitrification".

Both of these erstwhile volumes therefore suggest that freezing does not necessarily imply the formation of crystals. However, the term is ambiguous, while vitrification is not.

Personally I use "cryocooled" instead.

Best wishes,

Andrew



On 15 Nov 2012, at 17:13, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:


Hi folks,
I have recently received a comment on a paper, in which referee #1 (excellent referee, btw!) commented like this:

"crystals were vitrified rather than frozen."

These were crystals grew in ca. 2.5 M sodium malonate, directly dip in liquid nitrogen prior to data collection at 100 K. We stated in the methods section that crystals were "frozen in liquid nitrogen", as I always did.

After a little googling it looks like I've always been wrong, and what we are always doing is doing is actually vitrifying the crystals. Should I always use this statement, from now on, or are there english/physics subtleties that I'm not grasping?

Thanks a lot,
ciao,
s


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