Roger,

Very low values of Kd (nM) may mean that you have a good chance of finding both 
the proteins (or protein-nucleic acid) together if you get crystals of the 
mixture.  I therefore think that the measurements are useful in that sense. 
However, low Kd does not necessarily mean that you get the complex to 
crystallize. It is possible that one of the components packs better, therefore 
would crystallize on its own. Also, there could be cases where the proteins 
have very low affinity for each other (Kd in 100's of micromolar to millimolar 
range), yet would readily crystallize as a complex. If you want to know some 
specific cases in this category, look for examples of some ubiquitin receptors 
co-crystallized with ubiquitin.

Gel filtration of the mixture is not the only answer. You could also mix A and 
B with one of the components in slight excess (say B is 1.5-fold molar excess 
than A) and then set up trays without any chromatography. I have spoken to a 
few crystallographers working on protein-protein complex and they all seem to 
agree that the the mixing approach works.

I am not sure if anyone has studied the relationship between thermodynamics of 
protein-protein or protein-nucleic acid complex and their crystallizability. I 
would like to know, if you find any. 

 
Chitta

    

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Pickman" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 10:11:15 AM
Subject: [ccp4bb] Binding constants/kinetics for crystallisation

Dear all - is there a rule of thumb for favourable values of Kd, kon and koff 
of protein-protein or protein-dna complexes for protein crystallisation? Are 
these measurements useful in crystallisation, or should one just put it down a 
gel filtration column, hope for a complex and not worry? If anyone can point 
toward a reference, i'd appreciate it. 



Roger 

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