Zn is a very electron rich atom so a 2.3 A resolution data set should
be a fine experiment to determine the number of fully occupied metal
sites.  It is always hard to be sure about screen shots of density, but
it looks to me that you only have evidence for one zinc here.

   In my opinion, it is not useful to build models that don't make
sense.  Your zinc cluster does not make chemical sense to me and
the atoms are not in the density.  I suspect that you built this
cluster, and not the obvious model with fewer zinc atoms, simply
because you wanted to match the "magic number" of four.  Use the
things you know with confidence as your guide.

Dale Tronrud

On 01/16/13 11:15, ruisher hu wrote:
> Hi, Dear All,
> 
> I recently got a dataset about 2.3 A resolution, however, I got some
> trouble assigning the metal sites. It suppose to have multiple binding
> site(possibly four) around those four glu residues in the center (see
> the attached figure), however, it shows up a huge single positive
> density ,clustered in the binding center. The signal is pretty strong
> and I think zn is definitely there. When I tried to put four zns around,
> the geometry doesn't look very good and there is still some positive
> density in the center (although get weaker) and the bfactor of metals
> are high like 100. Does anyone know what's going on?Does it mean only
> one single site in the middle?Or maybe just metals are too mobile?
> What's the best way to tell how many metal sites are actually
> there?Which experiment can I use to test? Thanks very much.
> 
> Best,
> 
> R
> 
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:29 AM, SD Y <ccp4...@hotmail.com
> <mailto:ccp4...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Dear all,
> 
>     I have a related question to the one I have posted "low resolution
>     and SG", on which I am still working based on the suggestions I have
>     got.
> 
>     The model I have used, has Zn co-ordinated well in tetrahydral
>     fashion by 3 cys and 1 His residues. They have  add Zn in to their
>     experiment.
>     In my 3.4 A structure  (I am still working on right SG), initial
>     maps  show very strong positive density (sigma=6.5) at the place of
>     Zn
>     ( https://www.dropbox.com/s/4jd6gdor87ab9lj/Zn-coordination.png). I
>     have not used Zn in my experiment. I could only suspect Tryptone and
>     yeast extract which I used to make media.
> 
>     I would like to know how likely  this positive density belongs to
>     Zn? How to reason the presence of Zn when its not been used?
>     Is there is any way to confirm if its Zn. If this is not Zn, what
>     else could it be? Any thing I could try to rule out or in Zn or
>     other ions.
>     I appreciate your help and suggestions.
> 
>     Sincerely,
>     SDY
> 
> 

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