I have experienced a similar thing with lysozyme immediately forming a clear 
gel when attempting to dissolve at high concentration in D2O.  The clear gel 
did not readily dissolve on dilution (in D2O) and I discarded it.  I later made 
the sample by dissolving in H2O and dialysing to D2O.

Another protein I have worked with, a multimeric ATPase, requiring ATP to 
assemble, forms a white gel when prepared in isolation from other proteins of 
its complex and ATP is added.  From memory, the gel formation is fast (minutes) 
at higher concentration (~20mg/ml), and slow (hours to days) at lower 
concentration 1-5mg/ml, but this formed a precipitate not a gel.  Presumably 
this was a polymerisation.   The white gel was resistant to dilution or 
addition of salts.

After baking, I find that meat juices cool to form a gel, transparent and 
optically clear.  Like gelatine.


Sincerely,
Anthony 

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-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Michael 
Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 9:44 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] gelification of a pure protein

Does your protein have multiple exposed Cys residues? I have observed this 
before with a protein I worked with that had many exposed Cys residues. In my 
case I could add more DTT and minutes later the gel would be completely 
dissipated. My hand-wavy explanation was that the protein stays folded but 
becomes highly crosslinked when concentrated and exposed to air. I did have 
some small amount of DTT in my buffer to start with, but I assume it became 
oxidized relatively quickly (as DTT does), leaving my protein thiols to go wild 
and make S-S bonds between themselves. 

Good luck,

Mike






----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Egea" <pas...@msg.ucsf.edu>
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 3:36:24 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [ccp4bb] gelification of a pure protein


Dear All, 


I am presently faced with a peculiar case in the lab. We are expressing a 
protein in E. coli and we are able to express it as a fusion protein without 
problems . Fusion cleavage goes well and the final product looks homogenous by 
size-exclusion chromatography with the expected molecular weight. There are no 
signs of aggregation. However when we lower the salt concentration by dialysis 
then the protein forms a gel. transparent , optically clear, with no fluffy 
material (in the cold room). 


Gelification seems to occur when we lower the concentration below 100 mM NaCl. 
This protein has a fairly high pI (~9.0). Attempts to reverse the process by 
gentle heating or salt addition have been so far unsuccessful. It is not a 
thermophilic protein. We have not been able to obtain crystals so far. 



Has anyone already observed this kind of behavior and/or have any suggestions? 


Many thanks in advance . 

-- 
Pascal F. Egea, PhD 
Assistant Professor 
UCLA, David Geffen School of Medicine 
Department of Biological Chemistry 
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Department of Chemistry & Biochemistry

University of California, Los Angeles

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