Hi Wei,
if you tried both P3 and P6 and all subgroups, the right space group should 
have been in there. By the way, the number of monomers in the a.u. will depend 
on the exact space group (e.g. 1 in P622, 2 in P6 or P321, 4 in P3). There 
might be a conformational change, which causes the MR programs to reject the 
solution because of clashes. In this case you should examine your structure 
e.g. in coot and look for loops or domains, which might be able to move and 
delete them. If you get an MR solution with the truncated search model, you can 
always do a second MR run with the deleted domain as a search model. Single 
loops you have to rebuild from scratch. Alternatively, you could also increase 
the number of allowed clashes, so the MR programs won't reject potential 
solutions.

Good luck!
Herman

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Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Wei Shi
Gesendet: Montag, 10. Juni 2013 20:57
An: [email protected]
Betreff: [ccp4bb] Hi

Hi all,
I was trying to solve the structure of a protein in several different datasets 
using xds and phenix. I could solve the structure from one dataset in space 
group P4. For another dataset, I could solve the structure using the monomer of 
the structure I got from the first dataset as search model and solve the 
structure in space group mC. For the third dataset, in IDXREF.LP, the space 
group of the highest symmetry is hp: 101.2, 101.3, 58.8, 90, 90, 120. According 
to Mathiews coefficient, 1 monomer is expected in the asymmetric unit. But I 
couldn't get the molecular replacement solution using the same method as for 
the second dataset. I also tried several other search models (eg. deletion of 
the potential flexible region in the search model) and tried to find the 
solution in all possible pointgroup. I also tried to process the data in oC 
(C222), the space group of the second highest symmetry in IDXREF.LP, but, still 
I could not get right molecular replacement solution.  I don't whether this 
means that there is a big conformational change for the structure in the third 
dataset or the space group I use is not right. Let me know if any of you would 
have any comments or suggestions for me. Thank you so much!

Best,
Wei


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