What a statement !
Give reviewers maps, I agree however, what if the reviewer has no clue of these 
things we call structures ? I think for those people table 1 might still 
provide some justification. I would argue it should go into the supplement at 
least.

Jürgen 

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On Aug 28, 2013, at 5:58, "Bernhard Rupp" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> We don't currently have a really good measure of that point where adding
> the extra shell of data adds "significant" information 
>> so it probably isn't something to agonise over too much. K & D's paired
> refinement may be useful though.
> 
> That seems to be a correct assessment of the situation and a forceful
> argument to eliminate the
> review nonsense of nitpicking on <I/sigI> values, associated R-merges, and
> other
> pseudo-statistics once and for good. We can now, thanks to data deposition,
> at any time generate or download the maps and the models 
> and judge for ourselves even minute details of local model quality from
> there. 
> As far as use and interpretation goes, when the model meets the map is where
> the rubber meets the road.
> I therefore make the heretic statement that the entire table 1 of data
> collection statistics, justifiable in pre-deposition times 
> as some means to guess structure quality can go the way of X-ray film and be
> almost always eliminated from papers. 
> There is nothing really useful in Table 1, and all its data items and more
> are in the PDB header anyhow. 
> Availability of maps for review and for users is the key point.
> 
> Cheers, BR

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