Dear Remie,

For reasons that probably only Garib understands, Refmac still uses LINKR 
instead of LINK to link atoms. However (at least for Refmac) both LINK and 
LINKR should work.

After a lot of complaining in the past (also from my side), the handling of 
carbohydrates in Refmac is ok. I just did some tests with N-linked 
carbohydrates (NAG, MAN): after using the Make Link option in coot and saving 
the file, there were regular LINK records, created by coot. After running 
refmac from within coot and saving the files, the LINK records were converted 
(perverted?) to LINKR records. However, they did not disappear and after 
restarting coot and loading the file again, they were still there. Also my 
version of pymol recognizes both LINK and LINKR records, since the connections 
are shown when I load the files before and after running refmac.

Some suggestions: check that you are using recent versions of coot, refmac and 
pymol. Older versions may have problems. I don't know how you construct your 
carbohydrates, but if you get the monomers, you have to delete an oxygen atom 
in the link (in my case the O1 atom). Make also sure that your starting 
geometry is acceptable. Just doing a real space refinement usually works well, 
but sometimes the carbohydrate crashes into the protein density and you will 
have to manually fit the sugar as good as possible. Some of the older files in 
the PDB may have distorted carbohydrates, so here it is probably best to build 
the carbohydrates again from scratch (get monomer, delete linking oxygen) etc.  
  

Good luck!
Herman






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Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Remie 
Fawaz-Touma
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014 16:13
An: [email protected]
Betreff: [ccp4bb] Refmac5

Hello everyone,

When I refine in CCP4 a structure with Glc units attached every few of them as 
a ligand and there are several of them in the same file, I start off with a PDB 
that shows the LINK records between the GLC units as LINKR because I add the 
links by > Extensions > Modelling > Make Link (2 atoms) in COOT. 

What does LINKR mean? why not just LINK?

More importantly, when I refine, the output PDB file does not contain the LINK 
records, why do they go away? and in PyMol I see only GLC that are close enough 
to make a covalent bond stay connected, the others become detached, in CCP4 
they all show detached, but if I do a real space refinement for those sugars of 
the same ligand in the output file, they come close together and attached?

Any suggestions?

Thank you very much in advance.

Remie

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