On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Dirk Kostrewa <[email protected]>
wrote:

> yes - unfortunately, in my hands, phenix.xtriage reads the XDS_ASCII.HKL
> intensities as amplitudes, producing very different output statistics,
> compared both to the XDS statistics and to an mtz file with amplitudes
> created from that XDS file.
>

This is incorrect.  It does read it correctly as intensities - the
confusion probably arises from the fact that Xtriage internally converts
everything to amplitudes immediately, so that when it reports the summary
of file information, it will say "xray.amplitude" no matter what the input
type was (the same will also be true for Scalepack and MTZ formats).
However, the data will be converted back to intensities as needed for the
individual analyses.  Obviously this isn't quite ideal either since the
original intensities are preferable but for the purpose of detecting
twinning I hope it will be okay.  In any case the incorrect feedback
confused several other users so it's gone as of a few weeks ago, and the
current nightly builds will report the true input data type.  (The actual
results are unchanged.)

Tim: I have no reason to think we handle unmerged data poorly; I'm not sure
who would have told you that.  In most cases they will be merged as needed
upon reading the file.  I'm a little concerned that you're getting such
different results from Xtriage and pointless/aimless, however.  Could you
please send me the input and log files off-list?  Dirk, same thing: if you
have an example where XDS and Xtriage are significantly in disagreement,
the inputs (and logs) would be very helpful.  In both cases, I suspect the
difference is in the use of resolution cutoffs and absolute-scaled
intensities in Xtriage versus other programs, but I'd like to be certain
that there's not something broken.

thanks,
Nat

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