How non-isomorhous is non-isomorphous?
Can you give the cells and putative Spacegroups for A a B & b?

You can often get information at low resolution for this sort of problem if
there is some level of similarity.

 Eleanor

On 18 November 2014 21:15, David Schuller <[email protected]> wrote:

>  You don't mention any quality indicators on your derivatives, nor
> resolution.
>
> Presuming they actually have some decent phasing power, you may be able to
> generate phases & maps using SIR phasing + solvent flattening. If you can
> do that for each isomorphous set, then you could combine them using
> multiple space group noncrystallographic averaging.
>
> Or, if the derivatives contain atoms with anomalous scattering, you could
> solve a derivative alone with SAD methods, or a derivative + native set
> with SIRAS. Once you get crude maps, you can once again try to combine the
> two sets with multiple space group averaging.
>
> As for MR, there are lots of things you can try. Once again, you have
> provided no detail on what the sequence similarity is, or any other factor
> that would allow us to judge the likelihood of success.
> You could search again with the model clipped down to poly-Ala. You could
> search again with any external loops trimmed off. If it is a multiple
> domain molecule, you could search individually with single domains. You
> could find additional search models, and search with a suite rather than
> single model. MR programs will suck up as much free time as you can provide
> them.
>
>
>
> On 11/18/14 15:01, joy yang wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>  I have two derivative datasets (heavy atom A and B) and two native
> datasets (a and b), A and a are isomorphous, B and b are isomorphous,
> however, a and b (or A and B) are not isomorphous.
>
>  I was able to make two difference patterson maps (FA-Fa and FB-Fb) and
> search for heavy atoms against them, the possible positions of heavy atom A
> and B are very close to each other in the unit cell (which seems to me that
> I am very close to a right phase, though not there yet), I am wondering if
> there is any means for me to combine the information from FA-Fa and FB-Fb
> as the two native datasets are not isomorphous? And also, I have a homology
> model which I tried molecular replacement and failed, is there any means
> for me to combine the information from the model too?
>
>  Best,
>
>  Bei
>
>
>
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