No - no - failure has nothing to do with the SG - only the point group
matters..

 You dont need to reintegrate - integration only requires knowledge of
thecrystal class.

That must be  why you get some different results. If you like to send me
the 2 sca files I can check more carefully.

Eleanor

On 9 December 2014 at 15:03, Phil Evans <[email protected]> wrote:

> Processing (integration and scaling) only depends on the point group, not
> the space group, so it is the same in P222 and P212121. Structure solution
> is different so you may need to try different space groups
>
> Phil
>
> On 9 Dec 2014, at 14:36, Uma Ratu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi, Eleanor:
> >
> > Thank you for your suggestions.
> >
> > In HKL, I integrated the data set with P222, and scaled it with P222 and
> P212121.
> >
> > From pointless, it says the data better fit with P212121.
> > So I would like to process the data with P212121 as well.
> >
> > > And you have NCS translation at 0,0,0.5 which makes it hard to be sure
> if the SG is P21212 or P212121
> > That gives the (probably incorrect) suggestion that the data might be
> twinned
> >
> > This might be the reason that import failed with P212121.
> >
> > Regard
> >
> > Uma
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Eleanor Dodson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > I suspect this is an external problem - there is no failure message in
> the  P212121 case..
> > Obviously the input data is different for the 2 sets, do you know why?
> The integration should be identical.
> >
> > And you have NCS translation at 0,0,0.5 which makes it hard to be sure
> if the SG is P21212 or P212121
> > That gives the (probably incorrect) suggestion that the data might be
> twinned
> >
> >
> > Not sure why there are differences in the log files and the tasks -
> scale[pack2mtz and ctruncate should run more or less identically for these
> two cases. I suggest checking your input, and trying again
> > Eleanor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 December 2014 at 21:51, Uma Ratu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Dear All:
> >
> > I try to import the .sca file from hkl2000.
> >
> > The data was scaled as "P212121" from HKL2000.
> >
> > In ccp4, I used "scalepack2mtz"  from "Scalepack(Denzo") into MTZ
> format, run as Ctruncate.
> >
> > The import stopped at "Twin fractione estimates exluding operators" and
> didn't go any further.
> >
> > I scaled the data as "P222", and imported it using "scalepack2mtz".
> > It went through without problem.
> >
> > I have the log files from both imports attached.
> >
> > Could you advice why the "P212121" can't go through?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Uma
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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